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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-25 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #5589 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Lets put the cat in the pigeons tonight. WV might not be in The South, but what about Oklahoma? I say nah, it is a Wild West state, where the midwest meets the high plains. I don't care if its restaurants serve grits all day, OK is not The South.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's marginal.

This is the thing with categories. They don't exist in nature. We invent them. There are very few categories that actually are as stark and black-and-white as we think of them. Oklahoma is Southern in some ways and not in others. It's not a core southern state but it's also not unreasonable to describe it as Southern; it's not that much less southern than Texas or Arkansas, both of which people are usually comfortable calling Southern.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Arkansas is completely The South. It is full on high trash South. Texas, once you get away from the coasts and bayous is a lot more marginal than Arkansas. Texas needs to be more than one state.

Hey, Liberal Texans, both of you, quit talking about how Texas is turning blue, it'll never happen. Focus on splitting Texas into three or more different states instead. Make one all the liberal centers and leave the rest to the GOP.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
that would be bad, because low-population states are systematically advantaged in the American political system. so splitting Texas into 3 smaller states, of which 1 is blue and the other 2 are red, would have the net effect of making Republicans stronger nationally. from this point of view, it would make way more sense to split California into multiple states. other blue states are generally hard to split because they usually only have 1 really large city - so for instance, any way you split up New York or Illinois, if you leave NYC or Chicago intact you probably don't get multiple blue states. Massachusetts might be doable I guess, western Mass is more conservative than the rest of the rest of the state but still blue overall.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2022-04-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oklahoma is the Midwest desperately wishing they were the south.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That's Missouri imo
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2022-04-25 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
There can be multiple ones.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-25 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
fair!
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2022-04-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And they all wish they had been a state during the Civil War so they have a better excuse to fly their racist flag.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-26 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. I'm an Okie that made it out. They have a confederate museum and everything.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Missouri is absolutely in the South.

- A Midwesterner who has family in Missouri

(Anonymous) 2022-04-26 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding? They get real seasons in MO. It isn't the South unless winter lasts about a week, and people still talk about the Blizzard of 93 being the only time they saw a frost. MO is only the south of the Mid West.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-26 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

"they get real seasons" is not really a reason to exclude it from being considered part of the South, considering plenty of Southern states get winter for more than a week. They may not see snow as much as the North, but the temps still drop. Granted, winters seem to have been getting shorter lately, but that's the fault of climate change.