[ SECRET POST #5599 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5599 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Good/bad reboots

[(Anonymous)]

winston had some amazing lines ("has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is because the dead HAVE been rising from the grave?")

and he was the everyman who admitted he was just there for a job; nothing to do but scut work and driving the ecto-1 was part of the gig, and in that context he worked fine - sure he could have had some secret specialism or specific skill set, but when you've got "if there's a steady paycheck in it i'll believe anything you say" it wouldn't make sense for him to be anything more than that

as moviebob once said, the entire joke of ghostbusters (84 at least) is that the whole zuul / vinz / gozer / mystical / ethereal / grand stakes / end of the world stuff ISN'T resolved by a fabled hero or a legendary wizard or a secret granddaughter of the bad guy - like it would normally be in such a setup -, it's resolved by these four fat dudes, at least one of whom is transparently a fraud and one just wants a bit of cash - giving them valid personal specialisms and history would defeat the entire point

Re: Good/bad reboots

[(Anonymous)]

This. I don’t get people undervaluing Winston, or just referring to him as “The One Black Guy”. Like, he is, but why use that overly literal and kind of backhanded description instead of his name? He’s a straight man foil, while also not letting his down to earth nature make him too skeptical. He’s almost an audience proxy in that way, as he’s more average than the others tend to be personality and intellect wise, but accepts things as they are in a way that I feel speaks to the audience’s sense of wonder at the supernatural events in the film. (Especially for the time the movie came out, and these were some of the coolest looking practical effects.)

I do think Ghostbusters 2016 is just as good, if not better(although I admit I mostly stayed away from Twitter when it was released because I was sick of the haters), and each member is more equal in terms of lines and screentime than the original. And Patty is just as great as Winston. But both of them are more than just “the black guy/lady”. I’m not saying that description is offensive or prejudiced, just overly simplistic and a bit belittling of their characters.

Re: Good/bad reboots

[(Anonymous)]

I mean even as an Everyman he's kinda just. There. He's largely just background even in the main group. You can do an Everyman and make them more interesting than Winston was who spent most of his time kinda just existing to make the group an even four.

Re: Good/bad reboots

[(Anonymous)]

We can agree to disagree, because I felt like he was a very engaging and cool character, regardless of having the least amount of screentime of the 4.