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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-07 04:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #5601 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5601 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
IA so much. On AO3 it doesn't bother me too much, even if I do wish I could just filter out 'reader' and be done with it. But on tumblr... seriously, just pick a label for these things and stick with it. Because even 'reader' wouldn't cover the ones who tag it with 'self-insert' or 'imagine' or whatever tf.

And yes, petty though it may be, I follow the person up-thread who wants this stuff out of character tags altogether. Or worse, tags for real people.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I think self-insert stuff is an entirely different subculture in fandom than readerfic to my understanding and imagine(s) came from blogs taking requests and coming up with prompts like "imagine that..." or something. Very Tumblr specific.

I'm not sure how anyone actually stands looking for and reading fic on Tumblr though. I stick to sites specifically for fic or stories in general. Tumblr tags and blogs are hell to navigate and that's IF you're not trying to find separate chapters.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

RE: reader/self-insert

As an avid reader of both (back in the day I was in a 2nd POV exclusive fandom space -- can you imagine there was a time when we called things by POV? lol), I personally don't find much difference and tend to use them interchangeably. Whenever I search reader fic, it's all "Y/N", a nickname, or the author finds a way to simply say "character called out your name". Some might even say "I didn't want to call you Y/N so the name is gonna be...". The key point is the POV is always second person (more immersive experience). On occasion I'll find a first person POV, sometimes even third person POV, but at that point it's been tagged somewhere with "original character".

I don't know if I'd necessarily consider it anymore of a subsection of fandom shipping than whatever are the juggernaut or rare pair ships, because in the end that's still what's happening, although (and this depends on the reader) it may feel like a more immersive experience. Some folks like A/B. Some of us want A/Me lol.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no I meant that self-insert ships are different from readerfic. People who do self-insert shipping have a "fictional self" that they ship with their chosen character(s) and who they refer to as themself and they'll often talk about as if it's a real relationship in a pseudo-fictional way outside the context of fancontent. Readerfic stuff is just people who write and read canon character/reader stuff. You're technically self-inserting when reading readerfic but self-shipping in the other way has become to mean something else. I've mostly run into them on Tumblr.

I like name blanks because you can just switch it out with a word replacement extension or InteractiveFics. And it's honestly less clunky than trying to be vague about the name.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Ahhhh I see! I didn't realize that's a Tumblr thing (makes sense though). I think whenever I write reader fic, there's definitely an imagined "you"/oc, but even my fictional self/avatar was more of a thing when I was a teen (and was more of an idealized version of who I'd like to be).

I'll have to check out interactive fics; I usually read fics on mobile by downloading the pdf, so extensions aren't an option :/ i too would like to do the "actual name".

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
You can just filter out "reader" and be done with it. I have. Download AO3rdr extension. It has a blacklist section. Mine is about a page long at this point. It's heaven.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
does is it work for Bob&Reader, Reader/Bob, Bob/reader and do you have to list all Bobs of your fandom?

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Anything with "reader" in it will be filtered. Including "spreader bar" because it has "reader" in it.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-08 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I see. Sounds promising!