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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-10 07:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #5604 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5604 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I lived in Japan for awhile. I had an overall positive experience. Most people were very nice to me, and appreciated me for speaking Japanese even if I was shaky about it at first. I was also white, and female presenting. I hadn’t come out as being into women then, and I definitely hadn’t realized I was trans yet. I have a strong feeling that being either a lesbian or trans man would have significantly affected the treatment I got from a lot of people, even if it wouldn’t have changed everything.

Non-white foreigners, especially black people and Koreans, get treated very differently than white people. LGBT people get treated very differently than cishet people. Neurodivergant and disabled people get treated very differently than neurotypical and able bodied people. And women get treated differently than men. There is a push amongst younger Japanese people to improve all of these things in their country, so it’s untrue when people treat Japan as an all around backwards country, where everyone is a bigot, just because there is a strong conservative attitude among the older population. But change is always a matter of time and lots of effort, so these improvements won’t happen overnight.

And also, this isn’t quite xenophobia in the traditional sense, but staying out of other people’s business and ignoring inconvenient things does still happen there, so it’s definitely not a completely foreigner-friendly country(but what country is?), but it’s not a completely hostile one either. There’s a lot of nuance to this, and things will always depend on individual people, instead of generalizing entire groups as either welcoming or hostile. For instance, I was ignored by so many people when I needed directions once(this was before cellphones, much less smartphones), even though I was speaking Japanese, and was kinda panicking on the inside. But I eventually had someone come up and help me out, and he became one of my best friends. We still keep in touch.

Either way, the other anons replying are definitely correct that these vlogs aren’t a genuine representative experience for most people. They’re another kind of polished entertainment.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I also heard that the bush fat people.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
AYART
Yeah. I'm someone with weight problems. Not obese right now but I yo-yo between low and high overweight BMI range. I've been publicly shamed more than once by strangers and friends alike because I'm chubby. :/
It's getting better because there are way more overweight Japanese people nowadays, but yeah... TV is also like that. Lots of jokes on fat people. They are not as awful as other cultures where they tell you things on the lines of "go kill youself you filthy pig", but it's still pretty fucked up.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope it'll get better! Italians can also be quite bold to their friends regarding appearances, like hair and clothes. They think they're helping.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
AYART
LMAO I am Italian and this made me laugh. SO TRUE. But I think Italians are way nastier sometimes. They usually sexually harrass you more and use your weight against you if you don't find their sexist attitudes "flattering".
Japanese people on a whole are more innocent when commenting on your weight, but I also had a couple of old men making pig noises at me when I was walking alone. (I was also 70kg for 165cm at the time, so not that fat at all).

The world is a fucking mess everywhere. Also, Japan and Italy are very different countries with very different problems, but have very similar bigotted ideas with almost identical outcomes. It's kind of fascinating, actually.
I'm also gay LOL

IDK if you're Italian or not, but there's a programm called "Ma come ti vesti?" That is like the worst thing ever in term of "insulting people for their appearance with the justification of helping them". I fucking hate it.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*NAYRT
Sorry people, I'm the anon who lived in Japan 5+ years, not the AYRT. I got confused.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s not a problem :)

(Anonymous) 2022-05-11 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That is true. Considering I myself have become overweight in the time since I’ve moved back to the states, I don’t know how I forgot to add that in.