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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-11 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5636 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5636 ⌋

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[Met Gala]


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[Mr Ballen on Youtube]


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[Satoru Gojo from Jujutsu Kaisen]


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[Twisted Kaiju Theater]


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(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Reducing his role only emboldened the racists, since it was giving them exactly what they wanted and rewarding their bad behavior.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2022-06-11 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, you're probably right. Though I think it goes beyond that. Star was is damned if you don't, damned if you do.

If you do something with known and loved characters, people will scream you ruined them forever.

If you add new characters, fandom is like "why should be care about this guy?"

(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean I don't think that the reduction in his role had anything to do with the reaction of the racists

It seemed more like a combination of two things - one, the success of the Rey-Kylo plot took a lot of oxygen away from Finn. Two, Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams apparently didn't agree with at all on what to do with the character, so it ended up being that he had a very different but still important storyline in TLJ. And then TROS was like "forget all that, that never happened", but the storylines that JJ originally planned for the character didn't make sense anymore and he didn't really come up with any better ideas for what to do with the character instead.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
TLJ also effectively shut down every single story thread at the end of its movie. It would have been an effective solo movie, but as the middle part of a trilogy it was useless. There was nowhere for anyone to go, that is why TRoS felt so disjointed and had to pull threads from TFA and make TRoS two movies in one to be both a middle bridge and finale. Rian just didn't understand the brief he was given, and nobody at Lucasfilm was riding herd on him to make sure he did.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
There were absolutely places for all of the characters to go after TLJ, including Finn, if JJ had wanted to build on those storylines. The idea that there was nothing left for the characters to do after TLJ is completely wrong. Finn, Rey and Kylo all had emotional throughlines going through both TFA and TLJ that could have been picked up in TROS.

They obviously weren't picked up, and it certainly seems to be the case that there was a huge lack of planning in what was going on with the overarching storylines of the three films. It's hard to understand why the decision was made to let Rian Johnson set up a bunch of storylines in TLJ that JJ apparently was uninterested in continuing. But it's just really bafflingly untrue that TLJ concluded the entire story of the trilogy. It obviously didn't.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT--I don't get why they let Rian Johnson made up a bunch of storylines in TLJ that threw out what was set up in TFA.

I think if either director had made the entire trilogy, it would've been more cohesive, but in a hypothetical world where we could watch both the RJ trilogy and the JJA trilogy, they would've been very very different from each other, even starting with the same list of characters and synopsis to work from.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Why didn't Rian build on the storylines set during TFA instead? He wasn't doing pt one of a trilogy, but part two. It wasn't anyone else's job to clean up after him, he was supposed to pick up on the movie preceding. He threw it, and all previous characterisation from previous trilogy, out the window instead. Take of your Rian Johnson fanboy goggles. It was RJ who was uninterested in playing with others.

He crashed the franchise.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
RJ wasn't interested in making a Star Wars movie, let alone the middle part of a trilogy, that much is clear. I just don't know who lost the bet - him, or everyone else involved.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Accurate.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-11 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This. The end result is three movies that are so disjointed that each one is more like a fanfic based off the preceding movies than part of a cohesive story.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
Finn could have been such a great character in his own right, if they'd really explored the rebellious-Stormtrooper angle. Nothing to do with Rey, give him his own story. Only in the THIRD movie did we find out there was a whole colony of other ex-stormtroopers who'd gotten out. That should have been a storyline from the first movie and carried through in the second.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, his arc should have been about inciting a stormtrooper rebellion and that's what turns the tables to win the war in the end so it wouldn't be just a re-hash of the we-blew-up-all-your-ships ending of RotJ.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yepppp