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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-11 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5636 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5636 ⌋

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[Met Gala]


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[Mr Ballen on Youtube]


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[Satoru Gojo from Jujutsu Kaisen]


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[Twisted Kaiju Theater]


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(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I get this but also it was written as (and I think meant to be) kind of cringy and awkward even in the book.

Like, Anathema is disappointed with Newt's looks and her ancestors wrote the equivalent of "go get 'em, tiger" on Agnes' prophecy that they would have sex. And then Newt is overjoyed and wants to go again and she tells him the prophecy says they only did it the once.

I think it's extremely unlikely we'll see an onscreen Aziraphale/Crowley sex scene, fade to black, or or even a next morning breakfast in obviously shared bed scene. But if any of that happens I suspect it will be awkward and a bit ridiculous, because the characters often are.

Also, as much as I love Pratchett (I like Discworld and Nation more than anything Gaiman's ever written) I think Crowley and Aziraphale would've had sex or at least it would've been implied they did if Good Omens had been written entirely by Gaiman.

Gaiman uses sex scenes to further plot and characterization in ways Pratchett never focused on, but I think Gaiman is very set on honoring Pratchett's memory by trying to write the Good Omens show for and as both of them.

Pratchett's writing and portrayal of marginalized characters improved a lot over the course of his career; there's some yikes worthy racism in the book Good Omens that I suspect was his doing, but he had sympathetic, obviously queer characters running around Ankh Morpork by the end. But the very few sex scenes in Discworld were fade to black and awkward and I just can't see him focusing on the sex lives of any characters. At least in his published work, he didn't seem the type to show character development via sex scenes. I love works that advance plot and character development via smut, but if it shows up in the new Good Omens I'll be shocked.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - This makes me smile. I wonder if the author may have been asexual and bad at sex scenes or thinking of sex as an important plot point (cough, relatable). Maybe I get where OP comes from slightly better now.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT--well, Prachett died (too soon!) in 2015, so we can't ask him about his sexuality, but his wife and daughter are still alive. I would guess he was cis, straight, and very white and British and not great at writing sex scenes. But he learned and grew and tried and changed and it definitely showed in his writing.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I think it's just something he chose not to focus on in his writing. Not that he was opposed to it (there's certainly enough bawdy humor and innuendo everywhere) but it just didn't fit his style.

I just remember a year or so ago when TERFs tried to claim him, and his daughter Rhianna was just like OH FUCK NO. He wasn't perfect on this by any stretch but there are quite a few gender-nonconforming characters in Discworld and at least one definite canon trans man in Monstrous Regiment, all of whom are portrayed very sympathetically.

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Oh, that's fine then. I am ace and have trouble with attributing meaning to sex in my works myself (it's a learned ability, not something that happens automatically) so I was just wondering. Thanks!

(Anonymous) 2022-06-12 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Gaiman uses sex scenes to further plot and characterization in ways Pratchett never focused on, but I think Gaiman is very set on honoring Pratchett's memory by trying to write the Good Omens show for and as both of them.

Right? It's not like Gaiman is shy about writing sex, including queer sex. The American Gods show had one of the most explicit m/m scenes I've ever seen in genre TV. Bryan Fuller should get some of the credit for that of course, but it is in the book.

I wouldn't be shocked to see some sexual innuendo, but I don't expect a full-on Aziraphale/Crowley sex scene, no. (though part of me would love to see how Sheen and Tennant would play it. I'd bet on funny/awkward/accidental non-human traits popping out)