[ SECRET POST #5645 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5645 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. https://i.imgur.com/lhy6Jan.png

[(Anonymous)]

I mostly remember fic with Clint Barton in the vents and it did always seem ridiculous. I can imagine the reality is not nearly as cute.

[feotakahari]

Any thoughts on Encanto?

[(Anonymous)]

Came here to ask the same question.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, TELL ME MORE ABOUT PATIENTS IN THE CEILINGS. As in, happened more than once? Independently?? Why?? How do they get there if they're injured? I'm SO CURIOUS.
(unless it's against HIPAA or something; this is just NOT the fandom trope I would've chosen to be a real-world problem)

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP

I am absolutely shaken that this ridiculous bit of fanon has basis in reality.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
SAME. I'm both horrified and filled with a sick sick need to know absolutely EVERYTHING about this, even if the knowledge will haunt me forever.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm... profoundly intrigued by the whole patients in the ceilings thing. Not least because in college, in my dorm (the geek dorm, the scifi/fantasy/gaming nerds, it was great fun living there) we had one of those drop ceilings with the easy to push out tiles, and it turned out that above them was very nearly a whole other floor.

So, being college students, they set up a sort of room up there and every so often there'd be a "party on the N+1th floor".

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen more than one source debunk the whole "crawl through the air vents" trope with the explanation that generally speaking air vents are not built to be nearly strong enough for whole-ass adult humans to crawl through them without literally crashing through. Now I'm wondering whether those sources were incorrect, or hospital air vents are stronger than regular air vents. Or OP is making it up, that is also a possibility--not that I'm necessarily accusing you of it, OP. It doesn't really feel like something a person would make up, fwiw.

If this really does happen in hospitals, that is fucking WILD. Is it a payment issue? I know hospital stays are expensive AF in the States, which I could see being a good motivation to flee. But if they're already checked in, I would assume the hospital already has their billing info, so fleeing wouldn't really help, would it? Can hospitals hold you against your will if they deem it medically necessary? Are people attempting to escape so they don't rack up even MORE medical debt?

[(Anonymous)]

I would assume it was people who were high, having weird mental issues, or both.

[(Anonymous)]

That would have been my assumption, too, except that I'm surprised someone that mentally unwell would be able to remove the grate from a vent and climb up into it without getting caught. I doubt I could do it, even while completely in my right mind.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, you'd be surprised of what they're capable of.

[erinptah]

Not OP, but I found a few different incidents where ceiling-hiding made the news, in multiple countries. Doesn't seem to be about vents, there's just that much free space between the easily-removable ceiling tiles and the floor above:

US:
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/patient-climbed-into-hospital-ceiling-became-trapped-in-wall-officials-say

Germany:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/missing-patient-found-when-he-crashed-through-hospital-ceiling-xjnjmgsp7

South Africa:
https://health-e.org.za/2017/10/04/mentally-ill-patient-sparks-fire-hospital-ceiling/

South Africa again, although it sure sounds likely that somebody else "helped" the patient get there:
https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/missing-patient-found-dead-stellenbosch-hospital-ceiling/

[(Anonymous)]

No, lol, you can always check yourself out against medical advice if you feel like it. And they have your address so they’ll bill you. But medical debt is dischargeable in bankruptcy and if you’re poor to begin with they’ll often reduce a bill if you talk to the billing office later.

I suspect people in the vents would be…nutters.

[dantesspirit]

(I did commercial HVAC for a little over a year, in the late 90s).

Generally speaking, duct work in itself is not strong enough to hold a whole ass human. But usually, said duct work is put up, in hospital settings in particular, above the rafters, which tend to be a higher grade of wood or more likely, steel, than used in residential building, where it's either between the rafters or below. In that instance, the weak points would be the seams and joins between the sections.

But again, everything is a higher grade in a hospital setting than residential, and the seams would be reinforced- to the point of hermetically sealed, depending upon the area of the hospital (we had to do that once, when a local hospital was remodeling. It was a PITA.), so it's entirely plausible, depending on the size of the person, as well as the duct work ( when I was doing HVAC, around 2ft x 1ft or 3ft x 2ft sections were standard, and we installed up to roughly 4ft x 4 ft sections in a commercial building once), and assuming they aren't claustrophobic.

As far as why it happens- not the OP, not in the medical field, but I'd hazard a guess that it's the mental health patients, in the midst of an episode, that are more likely to do this.

[(Anonymous)]

An Avengers Tower era story about Bucky living in the vents sounds like some heavy manifestation of PTSD and not much like anything I'd categorize as cute and sweet...