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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-06-21 05:25 pm

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AYRT

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Here are just a few of the most common ones:

-If you're bi or pan and your partner is the opposite gender, you're not queer enough.
-If you're anything except 100% gay, you're not queer enough. If you're aro or ace, sometimes you're not queer at all.
-Transmedicalism (if you don't medically transition, you're not trans)
-If you're flamboyant, you're an offensive stereotype.
-If you're not flamboyant, you're a bootlicker.
-If you like "problematic" BL or het, you're a straight girl no matter what you say your gender or sexuality is.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
+1000 to all of these

also
-If you're trans and you pass, we'll call you cishet
-If you're trans and you don't pass, we'll misgender you
-If your queer Leather identity is important to you, we'll try to kick you out of Pride because the sight of chaps make children cry, supposedly
-If you're nonbinary or genderqueer or agender, we'll judge you based on what we think you "really" are based on your selfies/pfp and you don't get to fight back against it
-If you're a bi woman, we think you're straight and lying about it. If you're a bi man, we think you're gay and lying about it

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Person who asked: oh, thanks to both of you. But isn't that... a human thing, not fandom-specific? For instance, the different stances on being "flamboyant" - I assume it's not the same people complaining. In short, I don't think it's part of the fandom experience, and I agree that both straight and non-straight people can be "gatekeep-y" in that way. Maybe it's just me (and my fandoms) but in my experience, fandom people tend to be more accepting (ie. less bigoted) in general than non-fandom people.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
(SA) Of course I don't mean it's alright to be... wrong - all I am saying is that it's part of the queer experience everywhere, not only in fandom spaces, or maybe it's just that in MY fandoms it hasn't been worse than elsewhere in the world? And even more than that it's also part of the (misguided) human experience to try and gatekeep?

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2022-06-22 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
OP of thread

Sorry if I was confusing. I'm lucky to live in a blue city with a very liberal group of family/friends, so I really never see it anywhere outside of this one specific fandom. (And because people in other comments are talking about this aspect specifically, I'm not just assuming people who are being jerks are straight, I'm only talking about people who have themselves said that they are straight women.)