[ WiR #006 ]

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⌈ Week in Review #006 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

Saturday: [ #820 ]
Sunday: [ #821 ]
Monday: [ #822 ]
Tuesday: [ #823 ]
Wednesday: [ #824 ]
Thursday: [ #825 ]
Friday: [ #826 ]

Responses to secrets you missed, things you forgot to say, general comments about the week, etc. go here.

And this is it, the last call.

[Poll #1381590]

Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[jlh.livejournal.com]

Actually, I found it easier to find people who share a bunch of interests with me because they keep popping up in various comment threads I'm looking at. Seeing them over and over impacts me more than seeing their one comment with a bunch of things in it. But then, I don't just scroll past; I expand all the comments for all the secrets I cared about (even if I don't comment on all of them) and also for the secrets that have generated a ton of comments.

[meran-flash.livejournal.com]

Except those 'ton of comments' tend to be just variations on a theme. Do you remember the thread for a Princess Bride secret a while back? It was just several variations on "lol you missed the point". Not worth expanding, not worth the load time.

Or, even worse, when it's a secret that many people agree on. A whole thread of "This." and "mte".

[jlh.livejournal.com]

Well, the scale tends to be different though—when I said "ton" I really meant, a bunch of threads. If you see a lot of people all replying to each other, then yeah, I'm going to expand that. If it's a bunch of serial comments on a secret I don't care about anyway, then I might not.

But that said, it is the same thing that was happening before, where people said the same thing over and over about the same secret—only spread out instead of concentrated. I remember ctrl-f'ing secrets and finding the same sentence, almost the same words, in nearly every reply. At least now, with the thread, there's a little bit of variation, or people, sure, just say "this" but that means they would have said that anyway.

[meran-flash.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but when they were spread out, the lag that the new system causes was avoided. Plus, even if the comment on an individual secret was just "This", it was usually either part of a larger, secret-spanning comment, or was at least mixed in with other, more interesting comments.

Basically, the worthless comments used to be easier to avoid. Now they're impossible to avoid.

[jlh.livejournal.com]

I dunno, is going through three pages of comments that lag really more onerous than going through 10 pages of comments that still lagged anyway because you had to keep reloading all the secrets every time you looked at a new page of comments? I can expand individual comment strings without having to go to a new page and sit around waiting for 165 image files to load.

And when I was ctrl-f'ing through the secrets I cared about, I couldn't avoid the worthless comments anyway.

It seems like there's a difference between people who had, say, 20 or fewer secrets they cared about and only really looked at the comments for those and the people who read all the comments regardless of the original secrets. For the former—who by the voting are in the majority—this system is much more efficient and much easier. For the latter, I can see the problem because you can't just scan through the site and see what catches your eye.

But for me, the lagging is worth only having to load three, maybe five pages of fandom secrets rather than ten.

[meran-flash.livejournal.com]

The lag I used to experience from the reloading of the secret images on each new page is NOTHING compared to the lag I'm experiencing now. Seriously, in the worst cases it's being thirty seconds and more.

I never read every comment regardless of the original secret. However, I DID read comments that did not regard the secrets I was interested in if the comments themselves were interesting. Now with the lag issue, it just takes entirely too much effort to read anything besides a very occasional comment thread. And here's the worst bit--the interesting comment threads, the ones with the most comments in them, are too hard to read! It just takes entirely too much time to expand it all. And god forbid if I wanted to comment MYSELF--hey, let's start the whole process over again. That'll be fun.

[moon-very-thin.livejournal.com]

This is an entirely unhelpful comment. But I was reading what you were saying about the lag, and wondering what you meant by it because I haven't noticed an appreciable difference. Then I realised this is because it always takes a good four to five minutes plus several reloads for me to load a new F!S post with all its images, and the best part of a minute to reload for each comment page. For me the new system is a godsend.

Obviously, the fact that there are people worse off isn't actually any help to your annoyance with the lag, because you're used to decent speeds. But if it cheers you up at all, imagine those of us in countries with rubbish Internet weeping over the 126k loading speed. :)

[meran-flash.livejournal.com]

I appreciate the sentiment

Only thing is... you've totally just defanged my argument now. I was gonna shut up about this pretty soon anyway, but yeah, if this new system actually causes you LESS lag, then I've got no more right to complain. Likely shutting up now. :)

[pimmy.livejournal.com]

"Plus, comments are reduced to one secret each"
I thought of this shortly after I posted. Yeah I can understand that XD And it's fun sometimes to notice certain comments and end up reading a secret you skimmed before.

I kinda miss the icons with the rainbows! %D

[drivebywizard.livejournal.com]

This. It's a shallow reason but having visual motivation to participate is just as important as everything else. Seeing the same damn icon through two pages of comments is the most obnoxious thing ever.

Also, this system just makes the post lag for those with a slower connection. I don't have that issue myself, but I know for a fact others will. Seems kind of unfair for those people if you ask me.

But ah, what's the point in commenting if the poll will be the only deciding factor.

[dragoon1940.livejournal.com]

Agreed. For me, most of the fun of F!S came from trolling through all the comments, hitting refresh, seeing what people were saying, seeing fun icons, hitting up random people with comments because I liked their icon or agreed with them (or disagreed). This way... I just sorta skim the secrets, then bail, because I can't be bothered to expand every last damn thread.

But this is the worst form of government - democracy, so I suppose I'll just live with it.