[ SECRET POST #5659 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5659 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

AO3 is not all of fandom, or even the majority of it. Or even a sizeable minority. You are dealing with a limited experience pool, and the AO3 echo chamber.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

What would you say is a larger influence that isn't an echo chamber? FF.net and Wattpad are big websites, sure, but they can't exactly be traced back to a single fandom the way AO3 can.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the point, there was no real single point that created modern internet fandom. In syncretised from many, many, many different sources.

[(Anonymous)]

X-Files newsgroups, the fix review mailing lists, and Gossamer.

God, millennials are more insufferable than boomers lol.

[(Anonymous)]

You think Gossamer had a bigger influence on modern fanfic culture than efiction did? Wow. Hate to tell you this but Gossamer didn't really lead to anything but Gossamer. If modern fic archives can be traced to Gossamer I'm afriad it's via it inspiring some of the HP archives. But there really was never another archive that did what Gossamer did.

(the invention of shipping on the xf lists obviously had a huge influence. But most of the terminology and stuff around modern shipping other than the word "shipping" developed post-HP or pre-xf.)

[(Anonymous)]

They’re really not, you’re just full of it. I say this as a Gen X’er: There’s nobody worse than Boomers. Definitely not Gen X’ers or Millennials.

[(Anonymous)]

As a fellow GenXer, NAYRT: God I hate GenXers the most

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I can’t agree with hating Gen X’ers as a whole. But as far as just me? Yeah, I hate me too.

[(Anonymous)]

You say that, but I get out of the AO3 echo chamber and keep running into AO3.

My paleontology podcast brings up AO3.

My UFO news site references AO3.

My extremely stuck-up Worldcon-attending Asimov-stanning SF lit blogs link me to AO3 fic.

My oldfandom independent archives are either talking to Open Doors or on Squidge, which is... running the AO3 software.

My current fandom was all Wattpad all the time two years ago but it has shifted over to AO3 as it's grown (and is now one of the biggest fandoms there.)

I want to live in a world where all of fandom isn't unduly influenced by AO3! That was not the point of AO3! I keep failing to find those parts you're talking about, though.

Except the bitter parts who constantly complain about the AO3 echo chamber and/or evil ficwriters, but they're also heavily shaped by AO3, as evidenced by the constant bitte4 complaining.

(But and I said above it's not just the archive, it's the way hp4gu, as the most visible part of hp online fandom when the HP obsession really hit the fan c. 2000, was the vanguard of the mainstreaming of fandom which really has changed literally everything in fandom even for people who've never heard of AO3 or HP.)

Harry Pottet isn't all of fandom and never will be but you can't deny the huge effect it's had on everything about how fandom happens without completely denying reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Totally random anon:

What's this AO3 echo chamber? Personally, it's where I find the most fic for most of my fandoms (outside of particular archives). Fanfic net was my first large archive, I've gotten on Wattpad recently (and it's full of youths having fun, which I won't shit on) but I find in terms of quality, (excluding ship specific archives) I find more (if only because there's so much available) on AO3. Tumblr is a bit wily to navigate and the long type of fics I like aren't usually there.

So just curious as to what that echo chamber is. This is the maximum amount of fandom chat I participate (on this site), so if there's something more on Twitter or Tumblr I wouldn't know. I will say I miss the LJ comms and challenges, but nobody's on there for my current fandoms/the reach isn't the same.

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding this question.

[(Anonymous)]

+1