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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-07-04 05:21 pm

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(Anonymous) 2022-07-04 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think anyone is claiming HP was the only influence or that no other fandoms mattered or whatever else you're hearing. I came up via Ranma fandom! But HP absolutely changed everything in a way other fandoms didn't. Star Trek in the early 70s is really the closest comparison to a fandom that invented nothing but changed everything. Maybe Sherlock Holmes.

I could also maybe point to Buffy fandom as having a similar influence, positioned at a similar time re: the internet, but even it didn't really change the mainstream discourse.

Definitely 90s anime/manga fandom had a probably bigger influence on the shape and direction of, let's say, geekery as a whole. That also changed everything. But even then I'd argue in terms of modern internet fandom specifically HP is at least as important. And there's certainly no specific group of online anime fans I can point to as important as the hp4gu alums were (many of whom were in other fandoms before! one thing it did was bring those worlds together!) Most of the huge infrastructural influence I see from 90s anime fandom is actually cons. Where it is still probably the hugest influence (and I'm two degrees separation from a lot of those early conrunners too actually. Most of whom have AO3 accounts btw.)

(Anonymous) 2022-07-05 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I wasn't part of it either (didn't speak English at the time) but when I think of 90s anime fandom I think of huge webrings before anything else. Pretty sure there was at least one community revolving around websites like animewallpapers, otakuworld or ANN (forums? Yahoo mailing lists? Oekaki?? Pretty sure Gendou.com invites were handed out *somewhere*) even though I wasn't part of it. In short, I know there was *something* big before the Gaia vs 4chan early 00s days but I can't remember what it was.