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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-07-06 05:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #5661 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5661 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[SIX, a musical about the wives of Henry VIII]


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[Supernatural]


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[Agatha Christie]


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[Charlie and the Chocolate Factory]


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(Anonymous) 2022-07-06 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it bugs me too, even though obviously I can see where people are getting it from.

As someone who grew up poor, and who has huge issues with scarcity mentality because shit was fucking scarce, I've always resonated hard with Charlie and Grandpa Jo. The way Charlie rations out his chocolate to make it last makes me want to cry, and the way Grandpa Jo so obviously would do anything to protect Charlie from the pain of their circumstances but is largely helpless to do so also rips me right up. It's just really, really tender and poignant and beautiful in a horribly awful way.

And yeah, obviously if you want to go all Cinema Sins on the text, then rationally it makes sense to argue that if Grandpa Jo was capable of being revitalized simply by having somewhere exciting to go, then he could've been up and doing something to improve their circumstances all along. But that is so clearly reading against the intent of the text, and it's reading against the text in a way that basically eviscerates the entire emotional core of the story. Which is fine; to each their own. But I find the emotional core of Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory very poignant and effective, and personally I would never want to be so blasé and dismissive of it in favor of a cynical hot take that plainly refuses to meet the narrative on its terms.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-06 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree with your take.

I took the lazy Joe memes as a pure joke, though. If what happens to the bad kids in this story is plausible, then everything else is, too.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-06 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If there is one thing that living in the end of days has taught me, it is there is no joke too outrageous for some sad bastard to take far too seriously.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-06 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fair. I got a chuckle out of it the first time I saw the lazy Grandpa Jo thing, myself, because it's obviously just a joke. But like a lot of those jokey hot takes, it spread and I've now seen in crop up multiple times, and for me it gets markedly less funny every time.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-07 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can see that becoming annoying.