[ SECRET POST #5675 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5675 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 17 secrets from Secret Submission Post #812.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/UXO3bCV.png

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom is Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, right? This isn't really about Kingpin, it is about Wanda.

[malurette]

My bet is Into the Spiderverse.

[(Anonymous)]

The secret does say Into the Spiderverse.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but that is a bait and switch.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't go here, and I agree that you are right that this is probably intended to be Wandavision wank, but my understanding was that Wanda did not actually have any practical means of bringing back her family?

[(Anonymous)]

Wanda was into murder and kidnapping of other her's kids. Same as Kingpin in Spiderverse, he wanted to punch through reality and steal alternate him's kids too.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah! OK then yeah, if the situations are analogous to that degree, OP is probably talking about Wanda. But also, in both situations, it seems clear that OP is wrong to describe that as "getting back their family." (And - also also - if I had a nickel for every time a Marvel movie stole the central backstory of Fringe, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.)

[(Anonymous)]

Both Wanda and Kingpin frame their kidnapping of alternate versions from other realities as getting back their own families, they are wrong and monsters for trying (even setting aside the whole wrecking of reality and murder along the way), but it is how both movies had their villains framing it in their own justification. They even had the same 'alternate family sees them and is horrified by it' resolution too. And, yeah, it is weird that it happened twice.

[malurette]

LMAO no. Spiderverse Kingpin wasn't bringing his family back from the dead, he was stealing them from his own alternate self.
Kingpin A's point of view is straightforard (and stupid): his wife and son are run over by a truck, he wrongfully blames Spiderman for it and decides to destroy reality to get replacement goldfishes. Now consider Kingpin B's point of view: someone rips through reality and yanks his wife and son. What is he to do, kill his alternate self to get them back? steal yet another reality's Kingpin's family, setting an infinite reality-breaking chain?

[(Anonymous)]

So was Wanda in Multiverse of Madness, she wasn't bringing her imaginary kids back. The movie made it clear that she was stealing them from an alternate reality from another her and she knew it too. If anything Wanda is worse, she knew her family only existed in her imagination in her reality, at least Kingpin's family actually existed.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't watched any of the Marvel movies with her, or her show, but would Wanda's kidnapped kids have seized repeatedly and eventually disintegrated because they were in the wrong universe? Because if Kingpin had succeeded, that's what would've happened to his "new" family in a few days.

[(Anonymous)]

No, just hate and resent the all powerful god tyrant that stole them from their actual mother. Oh, and the fabric of reality itself would have unraveled. So, they and Wanda might have ended up the only living things in the entire multiverse.

[hey_hey_hey]

OK, sure.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhhh this is quite the hot take??

I thought the point was that Kingpin feels responsible for their deaths because he indirectly was - they sped away from him in a car because they saw him murdering someone & were afraid of him. Like you should be. Cuz he kills people.

He also tries to kill Miles who didn’t do anything to him & was just a kid. Kingpin is not a good guy in any universe where he exists lol

[(Anonymous)]

Okay I haven't seen any of the films/shows with Wanda, but if the sentiment behind the secret was genuine and not actually a poke at another fandom and character, on its face this secret is the thought process that leads to murder suicides irl so yikes.

[(Anonymous)]

He wanted a do-over by kidnapping a close-enough version of the family that was disgusted by his actions. They would have suffered and died if they stayed in the alternate reality for too long. They would have lost everyone they knew and loved in their own universe.

Nope. Still wrong.

[dantesspirit]

At what it would have cost in both shows? No.