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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-07-25 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5680 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5680 ⌋

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Re: Favorite Redemption arcs

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say Meatbun was having a whole damn conversation about coercion and agency in that novel.

Because there are instances where someone is very clearly mindcontrolled - the black chesspieces for example, or the second time Miss Luo went demon. And there are instances where someone is heavily influenced, by Pills of Obsessive Affection, say, or *spoiler*, where arguably the specific choices and plans they make are their own but they're not free agents either.

And then there's times when someone goes through something mundane but so extraordinarily horrible that of course, you say, why wouldn't they turn into a demon etc. etc. like Miss Luo the first time, or *spoiler*, and... what are we going to say about the final villain's actions, when they were in such a desperate and revolting position, and yet, most of their victims were innocents...

Where does that line of culpability get drawn?

Re: Favorite Redemption arcs

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, I realy like that the morality in this novel is very, very far away from black and white and mainly grey and darker grey. And on several levels, really. CWN's own morality, for example, is also pretty skewed for all that so many people in that universe see him as some sort of paragon of virtue.