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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-07-26 06:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #5681 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5681 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2022-07-26 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
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NS, NF, etc.

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Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

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Official clickables thread.

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Games thread!

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You shouldn't need to ship or slash to be in fandom, fandom just means you enjoy something.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2022-07-26 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, no. Anyone who is a fan is in the fandom. It is the gatekeepers like you, OP, who ruin fandom for everyone.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Since this was first requested in the "secrets" thread, the UK has only gotten ever more surreal.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who reads a lot of fanfic... what the fuck are you talking about?

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is from the comments in reply to a recent secret, no? I think it might have been the one about gatekeeping?

Anyway it's honestly quite funny to see someone define fandom in a way that excludes pretty much the entirety of historical science fiction and weird fiction fandoms.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen every movie up to Skyfall and then I lost my interest in them, which is a shame since I love the franchise since over two decades.
From all the movies I've seen the only one I didn't liked was QOS.
Skyfall is one of the best Bond movies and the one I've probably watched the most.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been in fandom since I learned to read, and just for you, nonny, I'll make sure to read even less fic.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd swap No Time To Die with Never Say Never Again, dump NTtD in the non-canon pile and have done with it. It was shit. It wasn't just shit at being Bond, it was shit at being a movie period.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't people get bored of the same skin tone though? Like why design hundreds of characters and not play with it.


Anyway that's just on a very superficial level. If we really want to get into it, you just seem racist, OP.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This ain't it.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree (and I'll try not to repeat myself too much because I think we've already talked about this some).

For one thing, I think tons of the Craig era is still really quite good. Casino Royale was mostly good, Skyfall was good, the first half of No Time To Die was really good. That's a better ratio of hits to misses than Brosnan or Moore had. It's kinda hard to insist on really high quality standards for the Bond franchise given that the majority of Bond movies are very bad.

In regard to the fan theory stuff - I didn't like the choices they made in regard to giving Bond lore throughout the Craig movies and I didn't like the ending of NTTD. But I don't really think the fan theory had anything to do with it. Legitimizing the fan theory is not the reason that they did what they did in No Time To Die; I can't believe for a second that they care about fan theories. It was thematically in keeping with the whole thrust of the Craig era and the modern era of blockbusters, and I think that's why they did it.

I also don't think that the decision they made does legitimize the fan theory, because the Bond franchise already lacks internal consistency. It's not that different from "this never happened to the other guy", or the basic fact of how the setting of the series has changed over the course of years. And I don't think it crashes the franchise into a brick wall - they can easily just ignore the decision made and move on and it would be no problem. Like, they can just make a Bond movie with no explanations or lore and it'll be fine. No one will care.

(Anonymous) 2022-07-26 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The first half of it was great, and great at being a Bond movie. The second half of it was fine as a movie but crap at being a Bond movie (and it was also too long overall)

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