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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-02 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #5688 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5688 ⌋

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Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
If you order a latte in Italy you'll get milk.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think AYRT was annoyed that their drink didn’t have espresso in it, not that it had milk.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think AYRT was pointing out (not necessarily helpfully) that in Italian “latte” means milk. So if you order one, you will receive just milk.

(A “cafe latte” will get you coffee with milk.)

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, got it.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Did you read the comment you replied to? Or did you just glance at it and decide you knew better?

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, sure, and if I’d ordered “Un latte” in Italy that would be relevant.

Or, if the drink I’d ordered had been called “milk” in written Mandarin, Taiwanese Hokkien, or Hakka, then--well, I wouldn’t have known what it said, but I would’ve asked and found out it meant “milk,” which would’ve been an accurate name for what the beverage was.

But since I ordered “A Brown Sugar Pearl Latte” in west coast Canada, where the dictionary definition of a Latte is “A coffee beverage of Italian origin made with espresso and steamed milk,” the thing I got was, by definition, not a latte.

Which, to reiterate, is not a big deal. It's just very baffling. Like, if you walked into Starbucks and ordered a Cinnamon Dolce Latte and they gave you steamed milk, and so you brought it back like, "I ordered a latte," and they were like, "Yeah, that's a latte, that's what you ordered," I assume you'd find that odd. And if you wouldn't find it odd, well, you have a high bar because having worked in a coffee shop before, I can tell you that most people would find it perplexing.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if "the West" gets to decide that a drink of Italian origin can have a totally new definition separate from what its name means in Italy, I don't see why Eastern companies can't do the same. At Starbucks a latte might mean a coffee drink, but if I'm not at Starbucks (or another coffee shop), I would not assume that's what it means. Tea-based lattes and macchiatos are a thing in boba shops.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Eta that I just remembered even one of Starbucks' signature items, the matcha latte, contains no espresso or indeed any coffee unless requested. A tea-based latte sold by the originator of western-style coffee latte, go figure.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
Ok but if you think they should do that then you should start a petition at all your cafes to change the name of the drink, not be a barista in Canada and decide to be cute and show off your knowledge of Italian when some poor customer orders a latte.

Re: That's not what a Latte is, but okay.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-03 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Nayrt

When you are in a coffeeshop or cafe, the "Latte" option is usually listed on the menu under "coffee drinks" or something similar so it is obviously the milky option of a coffee. If you are in a milk tea/Boba shop and there is no coffee on the menu you can not expect there to be coffee in your drink and it doesn't matter at all that a CAFE has a coffee latte. That's a misunderstanding that nobody is to blame for but your own assumptions.