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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-05 04:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #5691 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5691 ⌋

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04. [SPOILERS for What We Do In The Shadows Season 4]




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(Anonymous) 2022-08-06 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I agree and also disagree! I one THOUSAND percent agree that current seasons are often much too short, and I feel the exact same way about how I just start to get a feel for the characters and the story and then it's over. I find that particularly true of the MCU shows and their freaking SIX measly episodes each. That is not a season of tv; that is a miniseries if the episodes are an hour each, and a long movie in six parts if the episodes are a half-hour each.

That said, as much as I miss the constancy of the old 20+ episode network model, I can't go back to the caliber of writing that typically accompanied that speed and volume of production. When I go back and try to watch most older shows now (by which I mean 90's and 00's shows--many of which I loved in their day), I just can't get into them. The writing is clunky and painfully unsubtle and doesn't give my brain anything to sink it's teeth into. I literally need to get drunk to enjoy them, and I'm not much of a drinker, so it's usually a no-go.

For me I think the ideal would be 14–16 episode seasons, with each episode being a full 60 minutes. Or, alternatively, I would really, really love a "show" that did three or four 90 minute "episodes" per year, each released several months apart. What I would love about that would be that at 90 minutes, each one could be episodic without having to dumb down the story or the character beats, plus there would be so much space for people to get fannish in the months between each episode. I'm sure there's all kinds of reasons why this kind of thing wouldn't work, but personally I would kill for something like this.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-06 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
You're joking, right? Writing quality has nosedived since the nineties.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-06 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe if you only watch major network and reality tv I could see thinking this? I'll certainly take Buffy and The X-Files over endless bland procedurals, night-time soaps in their twentieth season, and whatever campy fluff The CW is doing these days. *shrug*

And the 00s did have some strongly-written shows that foretold TVs transition towards more complex, nuanced storytelling. BSG and The West Wing spring immediately to mind. And of course Six Feet Under, which I never really clicked with, but which certainly did a lot to lead that charge. Plus, I haven’t seen it yet, but didn’t The Wire start it’s run in the mid 00s?

That kind of television felt like some kind of strange and rare phenomenon at the time, though, and even then, something like Mad Men still felt fairly unprecedented, and almost baffling in its deft and existential approach when it first came on the scene. Breaking Bad likewise, shortly thereafter.

I can’t even imagine shows like Succession, or Bojack Horseman, or (for my money) the last three seasons of Halt And Catch Fire existing before TV slowly came of age through the 00s and 10s.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-06 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
The CW only had one worthwhile show, and that was only because Legends of Tomorrow recognized how campy and weird it was and ran with it.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-06 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
... No?
Maybe it is worse for some shows or if you only watch MCU shitty series it's true. But there are a lot of great shows right now.