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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-14 02:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #5700 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5700 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-08-14 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been too long since I watched FMA to remember Hawkeye's motivations. I do remember her being kickass though. What are some other female characters that fit this trope? I can't think of any examples which is weird because I love tough badass women and loyalty/devotion is my favourite thing.

(And my favourite character is a tough badass man whose motivation revolves around his devotion to another man. Sorry OP, can't really relate.)

(Anonymous) 2022-08-14 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
(Sounds like my favorite type of character, please tell us more about him.)

(Anonymous) 2022-08-15 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's Roronoa Zoro!

He's tough, he's a badass, he has ambition. When we're first introduced to him, everyone knows his name and thinks of him as this ferocious, heartless bounty hunter. And his appearance and demeanour certainly match that reputation, but at the same time he protects a random little girl from the spoiled son of a corrupt government official, and then lets himself be imprisoned to spare the girl and her mother retribution from the corrupt officials.

He's so badass and cool that in a lot of other shows he might even be the protagonist. Instead, he supports his captain (the protagonist) and has taken his captain's ambition on as his own as well. In one instance he even says that his own ambition is worthless if he can't make his captain's ambition come true. Considering how ambitious he is himself and how single-mindedly he has pursued his own goals for a long time, that was just right in the feels for me.

He's not a loud character, but when the focus is on him it's always badass. My favourite moments are when he's supporting his captain, covering his weak point. I don't mean this physically in a fight, but emotionally. Zoro's devotion to his captain is rarely the focus, but it's always undeniably there (and when it is the focus it results in some of my favourite scenes in the whole series).

If you don't mind spoilers, here's someone more eloquent than me gushing about the character: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX0rC0jnRhg

If you have as much as a loyalty kink as I have, I heartily recommend One Piece. The whole series is full of themes of devotion and loyalty and the most beautiful thing is that almost always you see and understand why characters develop these bonds. You share the emotional ups and downs of the characters as the story progresses because the character work the author does is just fantastic.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-14 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t care if people like iddy loyalty kink ships, my problem is that people write literal essays on how FMAB has the greatest female characters and egalitarian healthy relationships ever and no it does not

(Anonymous) 2022-08-15 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there's Su Nan from the Lost Tomb series. She belonged to an Evil Illuminati Cult which believed the hero was destined to screw them up so they raised one of their members as his Evil Opposite to kill him. And, honestly, I found her story very interesting, enmeshed as it was in duty, agency, friendship over enemy lines, following the destiny your predecessors laid out for you or fighting it, what to do when your job is over... They get an arc where they're holed up in a remote monastery kinda quietly being friends? While she's still planning to kill him because that's her job? And he knows that? But he's finding the whole situation weirdly restful?

If we're talking about the Non-Evil type (which I suspect OP was), in general I *like* dutiful, unshakeably loyal characters, so, uh, I guess I don't agree with them.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-15 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Winry mostly fits the trope in Brotherhood, but in the 2003 anime she has a bigger arc about coping with her parents' death and has more solo time. Hawkeye fits it in both.

The ultimate example of this trope in my opinion is Mikasa from Attack on Titan.