[ SECRET POST #5700 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5700 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Riza isn't sexist, though, and here's why:

- the profoundly loyal subordinate is a trope we often see with guys, too, and nothing about the way Riza and Roy are written makes it, like...sexy or tawdry or about secret love. they even use the sexist assumption that it IS like that to trick Envy into revealing themself! Yes, fandom ships the fuck out of it, but again, they do that to dudes in the same trope as well. You're free to not like that particular trope in general or when it's women, but I want women to be able to fulfill all the narrative roles men do, not just trite cookie cutter girlboss roles

- the problem with tropes is in aggregate, not (generally) individual characters. A character who's a mother isn't a bad character - lots of people are mothers! The problem is when that's the only kind of character women get to be. And in FMA, there's tons of women being all kinds of character types, with all kinds of motivations! In a cast with Olivier Armstrong, Winry, Mei Chang, Lan Fan, Peninya, and Izumi, you've got a big variety of women with different motives, goals, personalities, and archetypes. It's women as People, not as set dressing.

- more subjectively, Riza just feels like a fully realized character with agency, and her relationship to Roy, although hierarchical, is still a mutual partnership. They both need each other and they both value each other, and Riza is still perfectly capable of operating independently from Roy, like when she's being held hostage by Wrath and Pride and very much holds her own in that difficult position.

I feel like there are definitely ways you could do this trope that would feel skeezy and have the dreaded Problematic Implications™, but Riza ain't it.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this comment, you've formulated it much better than I ever could.

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OP, leave Riza out of this!

[(Anonymous)]

On top of which Riza is a military character who's been through a horrible war campaign like half of the cast; she isn't singled out for being a tough badass woman but rather an experienced soldier like... half the cast. (Maybe a third of the cast, but still, a large amount of the cast.)

[(Anonymous)]

Further to the aggregate point, her character is the way it is because it's part of an assemble. Everyone in Roy's crew is like that. They have individual quirks and backstories but ultimately they exist to further his character's goals. Hawkeye is just the most prominent example.