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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-18 04:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #5704 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5704 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Yakuza: Like a Dragon]


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[Azure Striker Gunvolt 3]


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[Yurukill: The Calumniation Games]


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[I Am Magicami]


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tentaclecore: Ghostwire Tokyo (Default)

[personal profile] tentaclecore 2022-08-19 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yakuza series is far far better than some other Japanese games, but yeah if you're yardsticking it by your own social group it's going to fall short on that. The series gets more progressive as it goes on, and like a previous commenter said they removed some of the more egregiously offensive stuff in the Kiwami remakes for 1 and 2. Still a far way away of them having a character who doesn't conform to usual Japanese Culture rigidity regarding gender.

OP

(Anonymous) 2022-08-19 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
The only other Yakuza I played is Kiwami 1. In that one, there’s a mission where you beat up a trans woman, a mission where you beat up a trans man, and whatever the hell is going on with “Goromi.” I’ve heard it’s considered really important for the main character to not beat up women, so I ended up wondering, are BOTH trans men and trans women considered men in this setting?

If Kiwami removed some transphobia, then I’m morbidly curious what the original was like.
tentaclecore: Ghostwire Tokyo (Default)

Re: OP

[personal profile] tentaclecore 2022-08-19 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
you can very easily google information on the cut content from Kiwami to find that information, if your curiosity is all-consuming. but Kiryu not beating up women only applies to him going to other fighting game properties-- he outright slaps Haruka in the first game and iirc the third as well-- which as i understand it is considered acceptable parenting in Japan-- so again, you're going to find it fall short by Western ideals of progressiveness.

if you want context on Majima/Goromi, play 0 (the prequel). he started out in the original game as a b-grade villain who became a fan favorite because of how flamboyant and bombastic he was, so a lot of the "bad" stuff was retconned in later games and he became more of an antihero whose main characteristic is being obsessed with Kiryu-chan. he'll do anything to get Kiryu's attention, and if dressing up like a woman and playing hostess is how he needs to do it then so be it. Majima and Kiryu are the juggernaut pairing in the Yakuza fandom (in both East *and* West) for this reason.