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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-21 01:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #5707 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5707 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I have to agree, I've come across way more Americans who fetishize British class bullshit than I have Brits (for context, I'm a Brit who lived nearly 10 years in the US). A lot of American anglophiles don't understand a thing about British history, or class, so this secret reads at least as likely to be made by an American as a Brit, to me.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
i feel like pointing to harry potter fandom for example where literally the whole book is blatantly dealing with purebloods vs muggles and pseudo racist bullshit and being like, the Americans there sure do fetishize this, so all Americans must be like this about genetics is... a biiiig stretch

like of course the fandom of those particular books is going to deal with that aspect of them and is probably interested in dealing with that aspect of them. Americans as a whole, in general, being concerned with 'being well-bred' is... uh, very much not true aside from weird clusters of extremists

(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
NA but - isn't this also the case in England? Most English people don't fetishize class in this way, either. It's the extremists in each case. It definitely could be an English person, but there also definitely some Americans who get very, very, very weird in the exact same way.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
sure, but as another anon pointed out above the joke was meant to be about 'the social concept of wealth and breeding as it was espoused and perpetuated historically IRL'

(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Plenty of rich Americans in the South are absolutely like that, and there are far more Americans than there are Brits, so numerically speaking... But I think we're talking about the assumptions made about the OP, and you're talking about a joke you're attached to.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-21 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That's a fair point tbh

(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think there’s a difference between “comes from old money and speaks a certain way” and literal eugenics.

Americans of a certain type admire that sort of “classiness” without being about literal breeding. Nobody thinks these characters are intrinsically better specimens or anything because they were brought up knowing which fork to use.