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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-08-22 05:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #5708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5708 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-08-23 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
This is totally all true. I don't think Sherlock was totally a castle made out of sand though. I think it's a badly built house that still has some, shall we say, features of interest. The Great Game and The Hounds of Baskerville are still really good episodes/stories that stand on their own pretty well despite later trainwrecks. For the people who can manage to not loathe Mary (I like her, but WOW the hate), The Six Thatchers is also a pretty well-written episode with its themes of chickens coming home to roost.

I got disillusioned in the first ep of S3 when it became clear they weren't going to seriously address the emotional fallout of Sherlock's fake death, and they weren't even going to try to tell a compelling story of how he did it (Many fanfic writers of the time did a much better job of both those things). So I started taking the show a lot seriously then and lowered my expectations accordingly. I still watched it but I was mainly in the fandom for the fic. Because goddamn, there were so many writers who were so good. Anything I didn't like in the show, there was a strong chance there'd be a fic that would address that well and present a different scenario.

(Anonymous) 2022-08-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This is totally all true. I don't think Sherlock was totally a castle made out of sand though. I think it's a badly built house that still has some, shall we say, features of interest. The Great Game and The Hounds of Baskerville are still really good episodes/stories that stand on their own pretty well

See, the problem for me is that most of what was "good" about the early episodes was, IMO, actually just fans reading much more into the story than was actually there. The writers fluked into some really interesting dynamics early on, but then they left it all to rot on the vine in favor of the obnoxious, hacky, "clever" shit they'd had in mind from the start. I could've forgiven them if it was a matter of them trying their best to live up to the potential they'd built for themselves and it not being good enough, but in my opinion, the problem was that most of what was good about the show was fluke. In my opinion, most of what was good about the show wasn't good because of TPTB's intentions; it was good in spite of TPTB's intentions.

Moffat is the only TV writer I routinely refer to as a hack, because my problem with his stuff is not that I think he's a weak writer--it's that I think his narrative sensibilities are shallow, self-satisfied, and cheap.

Bit that's just my opinion. At the end of the day, most of us can agree that the show got real bad. The finer points of exactly why and how we think it got bad vary from person to person, and I think that's perfectly natural.