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⌈ Secret Post #5722 ⌋

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Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

I just assume people are like this everywhere, but then I got to wondering - would this happen in the US? Particularly the bit about the doctor stopping to help?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-62796625

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

SA The only reason I'm wondering is because of the difference in healthcare approach.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

serious question: why do you think this WOULDN'T happen elsewhere in the world? people can be decent even in the US ffs

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

I believe it of humans everywhere in the world, just had a moment of doubt when it came to doctors in the US. No idea why.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

I believe many healthcare professionals would try to help if they were on scene. I'm not sure a doctor would take over if there were paramedics already administering aid, unless they believed they had more knowledge of the condition.

But this happened earlier this year:
https://nbc-2.com/news/2022/05/12/video-good-samaritans-rush-to-stop-moving-car-after-driver-goes-unconscious-on-florida-roadway/

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think doctors in the US are less willing to step in and help in an emergency than anywhere else. The biggest difference is that the patient will likely be slapped with a gigantic bill afterward.

Re: Question for Americans

[pantswarrior]

This. I'm considering getting a DNR bracelet for that reason.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

The drinking and driving question was buyable because you claimed your friend had heard something somewhere and you wanted to verify. This is just bait.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

Huh????

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

Not all anons are the same anon.

I asked the drinking driving question a couple of days ago. I did not ask this one. Case can verify IP addresses if you need it.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

Any healthcare worker (specifically nurses and doctors) who cares about their profession would NEVER not stop to help someone who is in need of medical assistance. That is literally the purpose of their job, no matter where they live or if the local healthcare system sucks ass.
Yo, we have got to start asking ourselves as a society why our minds drift toward selfish expectations/concerns by others. Not saying this as a means to try to shame OP or anyone. Just, it's striking to me that to question simple ethics of strangers is quite common and I think a generalized opinion/assumption of strangers can signal how we see the world as a whole. And maybe I am a bit optimistic in my immediate assumption that most doctors would stop to help, but maybe I am not as optimistic because it concerns me that OP is doubting the general goodness of strangers...like damn

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

SA
Clarification: when I say "job" I mean as in I have seen countless nurses and doctors go into "save a life" mode when off duty. Like, their "job" is so intrinsic in them that they can't "shut off" even when they're not in their work environment. Like, they are specifically trained to know how to problem solve if a medical emergency arises, that's why people call doctors heroes (and why I've in recent years began voicing more appreciation for nurses, true unsung heroes of our everyday lives).

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT I believe you in the general goodness of humans. However, sometimes our instincts get screwed up. People stand by and film someone suffering with their phones that kind of thing. In the US, the commodification of healthcare is so endemic, it just suddenly occurred to me to wonder whether doctors would find themselves lacking in the same instinct.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

*I believe in, not believe you in

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
I hope I'm not coming off like I am judging you. I can see where you are coming from. In the US, healthcare and the cost of it ruining lives is common and regular citizens say we never call for an ambulance because ambulances are a fucking scam, so it's fair to wonder if that affects how a doctor in the US might handle a medical situation.
But like, I guess that's just it? Not to you individually coming to that conclusion, but the fact that the question you ask is a legit question in which is in need of an actual answer (and this whole thing isn't just a snarky rhetorical question to highlight US citizens' perceived attitudes), what does that say about us as a society? That we can't trust the state to protect us and we worry professionals are afraid to intervene due to bureaucratic BS?? Like, the world is really depressing

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

The world really is depressing my friend, and money is at the heart of it as far as I can tell. :(

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

Right, and I agree - in the US myself.

The problem is that in the US, a person experiencing a medical emergency will be helped in the moment, no doubt. And then they'll possibly be hit with a six-figure life-ruining bill. (assuming they're lucky enough to recover quickly enough that figure won't rise into the millions)

Yes, of course health care professionals will help in emergencies. What are they doing to advocate to bring health care costs down? We live in a shitty system where people who are injured on the street beg bystanders NOT to call an ambulance because they can't afford it.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Completely agree with you said and pointed out. I don't know enough about how hospitals and medical centers/professionals are operated to know how much influence doctors have in terms of telling insurance companies and the hospital owners that costs need to go down. Because from the small bits I see and hear, doctors and nurses (especially the everyday/ER types we think about immediately and not speality drs or clinics) are vastly underpaid and overworked.

Re: Question for Americans

[(Anonymous)]

Hell, I'm not even a doctor or a healthcare worker but I am certified in CPR and First Aid and if I saw someone who needed help I'd jump in to help because I know I'd be able to do more than the average person who isn't trained in those things.