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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-09-08 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #5725 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5725 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2022-09-08 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] fscom 2022-09-08 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ve been mad at the MCU for a while now, but I find it difficult to explain why in a clear and concise way.

First, they killed everyone and destroyed everything that Thor loved.

Then, after Wanda had already survived an unfathomable amount of trauma and loss, they killed her lover and gave her (the experience of having) kids only to make her lose them too.

And then, after Peter Parker had lost his parents, his uncle, and his mentor, they killed his aunt and rendered him completely alone in the world.

And they killed Tony. After all those years, and all the times he fought his way back from the sacrificial maw of death, he finally had no choice but to feed himself to it.

And through it all, the MCU has kept that same bouncy, knee-deep, “Fun for the whole family!” approach to storytelling. And it just infuriates me. It’s like a brutal bait and switch, except not, because any decent bait and switch knows it’s a bait and switch and the narrative conducts itself accordingly. Whereas I sincerely don’t believe the MCU writers realize how unfathomably bleak these characters' stories are now.

It’s like the writers tied weights to a bunch of the characters' feet and dropped them in the Mariana Trench, and now that they’re down there, pulverized, scrabbling along the bottom in the crushing blackness, Disney is still treating the MCU like a fun scuba-diving adventure. (Plus I now look at every single other MCU character and wonder if they too will be slowly dismantled piece by good-hearted piece until they are broken shells of their former selves, while Disney keeps right on pumping out quippy family fun.)

I’m 35. This isn’t my first rodeo. I thought I knew better than to let canon bother me.

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(Anonymous) 2022-09-09 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you, OP!
I loved MCU watched nearly every film.
The turning point for me was the death of Loki in Infinity War. My fave character killed within the first five mins of the film in a completely OOC way to make the "big bad" look bad. Then 5 mins later someone's making a funny quip. (This is, of course, after half of the already killed off Asguardians are killed). Then in Endgame they killed off Black Widow and for one second people seemed sad before moving on (then the film made a massive deal about Tony Starke's death. An I'm saying this as a Tony Starke fan! He was also my fave). Then what they did with Steve Roger's character left a bad taste in my mouth.
I tried to watch some of the tv series but Marvel has lost it's lustre for me. (Don't even get me started on th dreadful "loki" series.)
I find it very sad as I was such a major fan!
(I agree with others that fan fic actually works better for getting into the MCU again).

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(Anonymous) 2022-09-08 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't know whether I fully agree about everything, but I think that the cumulative effect is part of why this phase feels so ... weird and off tone? Like, Thor is such a tragic character but is in the "funniest" movie, Ms Marvel and She Hulk are comedies, The Eternals was ridiculously earnest and sombre about characters we didn't care about (then introduced fucking Harry Styles as Thanos' bumbling relief brother) and there's still no overarching plot. Who are we supposed to care about, Marvel, and what tragedies are allowed to count?

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(Anonymous) 2022-09-09 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
"Whose tragedies are allowed to count?" is a banger of a summary.

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(Anonymous) 2022-09-09 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA - Oof, I'm remembering this one I love it.