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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-09-18 04:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #5735 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
as a british person... you're pretty much bang on

the only person who's managed to do "working royal" stuff while extricating themselves from the intricacies of palace intrigue is diana, and we all know how that ended up

i'm reminded of tom ewing (writer of popular, a blog at freakytrigger where he was systematically reviewing all the uk number ones until he got bored a year ago)'s hypothesis in his writeup of candle in the wind 97 - that if the royal family was The Firm that diana had gotten herself booted out from, then her lifestyle became very much the equivalent of starting her own version in competition - more agility, less protocol - and the System REALLY didn't like that

and as you've noted, meghan seems to want to do something similar (a very british thing) but monetise the shit out of it in the process (a very american thing)

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Remember the whole "Sussex Royal" thing? Look, I'm not an expert at royal protocol but i saw that and thought... ooh, that's probably not going to work. What gets me is that Harry must know that wouldn't fly? I don't think most Americans grasp this, because it seems pretty normal and accepted to capitalize on one's fame like this and leverage it into a (hopefully massive) income. But the royal family were never going to stand by quietly and let Harry and Meghan 1) leave the "working royals" and not participate in any of the service that was expected of them and 2) use their royal status to generate a private income, with branded merch.

Harry also had to have known that his kids weren't going to automatically get titles and it wasn't because they were of mixed heritage. But he still went on Oprah and strongly implied this so everyone who doesn't know how royal titles work would get mad on their behalf? Yikes.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Harry thought that because an exception was made for William's kids, that it would have been made for him too. He failed to realise just how far a bump down the pecking order he'd taken though, William's kids are direct heirs and he isn't anymore. I also think he thought that William would be as ready to torch the whole institutional relationship with the press as quickly as he did, and that was super naive too given their very different roles.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
oh god, i remember that sussex royal bullshit - my reaction was "do you want to be royals or not"; you can't quit the royal family and then expect people to care about how royal you are, it doesn't work that way

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's the part that people are picking up on that's garnering some of the negative attention. They wanted to cherry-pick the best of their royal connections, i.e. the fame that can be leveraged into income, the titles, etc. But they wanted those things without being a "working" royal and doing the things that working royals do. So... yeah, that doesn't look very good.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
They were very cool with the working part, though, they just don't want the news crap that comes with it. Which is understandable.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-18 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehhhh, sort of. I agree, it'd be perfectly understandable not to want "the news crap" and nobody would fault them for that. It's also that they wanted to "work" for a private income in addition to the income they'd draw from the Crown and that's not permitted. The type of work they're also interested in doing is not what the working royals typically do, it's... very American, if that makes any sense. Big splashy projects, big splashy merchandising, sponsorships, that kind of thing. Like GOOP, but royal! That was never going to be palatable to the royal family.

(Anonymous) 2022-09-19 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
they haven't realised that they aren't the ones who get to choose how famous they are