[ SECRET POST #5743 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5743 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[What We Do In The Shadows]


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[RPGs in general]


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[We are Lady Parts]


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05.
[Usada Pekora]


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06.
[Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]


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07.
[Cheers]


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08.
[The Princess Bride]


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[Overwatch]













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Comments

[scissorsevered]

It seems that this sort of stuff keeps picking up steam whenever society has another pedophile scare. I know that there was a lot of debate and fear about it in the 2000s, was the whole pedo-accusations of 2010s fandom a remnant of that?

I have a feeling that QAnon and antishippers are more intrinsically linked then seems apparent at first glance. I know it sounds a bit outlandish, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if far-righters are using fandom as a way to recruit teens.

[(Anonymous)]

One common effect that both have is hypervigilance, which makes people have pedophilia on the brain all the time, to the point of seeing it where it doesn't exist. I've seen at least three different pile-ons of artists who created work that, to someone who isn't whipped up into a frenzy by one of these cults, looks completely innocent and G-rated. Nothing sexual at all. To see pedophilia there, you'd have to be in a state of mind where you believe it's literally everywhere and you just have to "decode" something to see it. It's like those facebook memes about "signs" that white suburban moms are going to be "trafficked" out of the Target parking lot. If someone is in a state of fear and rage like that all the time, they're easy to manipulate by people promising safety and punishment for the "bad" people.

They both overemphasize "stranger danger" when the fact is that most children who are sexually abused are victimized by someone they know and have been conditioned to trust.

[scissorsevered]

I think a lot of it comes down to actual abusers manufacturing this whole scare too. Think about it: you scare teens into thinking that pedophiles are all around them, but you convince them that because you are against these "pedophiles", that they can trust you. This is why there has been so many instances of grooming and manipulation within the antiship circle.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Knowing how many older fandom puritans have turned out to be groomers, I'm convinced this is it.

And their friends defend them because all that matters is that their fictional ships are healthy and the characters they like are unproblematic.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

+1

It's all about the appearance of being healthy and wholesome. The better you are at presenting that outwardly, the more harm you can do.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

This. It's all about having the right opinions and saying the right things, rather than actually doing the right thing. It's about appearing to be a perfect good person rather than actually putting effort into being a good person, even if you make mistakes.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Yes, this. It's very common for real abusers to participate in a moral panic to divert attention from what they're doing, and for people to follow along blindly because they want to be seen as good people, and after all, the accusation is about the worst thing you can accuse somebody of, surely there must be some evidence for it, right? Right? (In reality even asking for evidence will put you on the sus list)

And also in some cases they don't want to deal with a difficult reality close to home, like a child is being abused by a family friend or a youth group pastor or a BNF who's actually showing minors porn all the time (under the guise of "look how evil this is") while encouraging them to open up about their trauma in private messages.

[(Anonymous)]

DA I made a secret about this a little while ago, but it hasn't been posted yet. But yeah, the constant moral panic about everything makes it very hard to address the behavior of the actual bad actors in fandom because it creates a smokescreen and diverts attention to people who aren't harming anyone with their fictional creations.

[(Anonymous)]

Pedophiles have basically become the only remaining group of people it is OK to unconditionally hate. You can't hate people based on gender, sexuality, race, ethnicity, age, appearance, weight, or religion anymore, at least not without being accused of being the bad guys yourselves and getting banned from Cloudflare, and hating people based on their political beliefs puts you at risk of having to defend your own political beliefs. And rapists and wifebeaters, sure, they're bad, but that *particular* one had an excuse, okay, so we'll uncancel that one.

But we can all get together to stone pedophiles to death! Nobody dares defend a pedophile!

And therefore if you want to whip a mob up into a frenzy of hate against someone you basically have to accuse them of being a pedophile, all the other excuses are too complicated now.