[ SECRET POST #5755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5755 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is a bad idea! The MCU does not have to make sense! That's not what the stories are about! The MCU is not Watchmen, and it shouldn't be Watchmen, because it's supposed to be an ongoing series about superpowered characters having fun adventures and fights, not a stand-alone examination of the societal ramifications of superpowers and the nature of free will.

[(Anonymous)]

That ship sailed as soon as they called one character Captain America. Or had a superhero who was the literal king of a sovereign nation.

[(Anonymous)]

Just because you have something in your setting does not intrinsically mean that you need to critically examine the ramifications of that thing existing. You can have things that are just there and don't get examined. Even if they don't make sense, you can just not talk about the fact that they don't make sense. It's fine to have things that are just there and not poke around at them, especially if it's not relevant or useful for the kinds of stories you want to tell.

[(Anonymous)]

If they were aiming for ‘fun adventures and fights’, I’m not sure how well they succeeded, when pretty much every superhero teamup in these movies starts off on an antagonistic footing driven by external pressure. Like, if you compare it even to the cartoons, things like A:EMH, where teams voluntarily get together, there’s a meanness and a focus on interpersonal conflict in the MCU that drained the fun even back as far as the first Avengers movie, possibly IM2. IMO, anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a *lot* of team-ups in the comics verses where hero characters brawl with each other over a misunderstanding before finally working together.

That's not a specific movie thing.

Sometimes fans just... want to see their blorbos get it on without worrying too much about why.

[(Anonymous)]

they keep fucking trying to be about serious issues tho

like I grant you they have never once succeeded in coherently examining drone strikes, the surveillance state, imperialism, oversight, international jurisdiction, or whatever the fuck thanos was supposed to be about

but they sure do TRY. not in every movie, but in a whole bunch of them, including plenty of the tentpoles

like if they just want fun nonsense fights then they needed to axe the entire sokovia accords plotline because that is not that thing

but they want the credit and the media buzz of doing shallow social commentary with overly self-serious presentation to cover for all their copouts

and you can enjoy them for the fun fighty parts and not need them to meaningully pay off any of the serious issues they dabble with. but lets not pretend the mcu isn't at least trying to look like it has something to say, even though it doesn't, whether or not they're trying to actually have something serious to say

[(Anonymous)]

So, one, I think that you can say coherent thematic things in a work of fiction without necessarily having the worldbuilding be rigorous and realistic.

And two, I wish they would try to address fewer serious issues, I think that's a mistake from the start.

[(Anonymous)]

Then they should stop their stupid attempts of examination of the societal ramifications of superpowers and the nature of free will.

Also let me guess, you're USAmerican.

[(Anonymous)]

Then they should stop their stupid attempts of examination of the societal ramifications of superpowers and the nature of free will.

Yes, I agree. I think they should spend less time examining those things, not more time.