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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-10-08 02:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #5755 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5755 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-10-08 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm American and I know how "Constantinople" is pronounced... and it's not that.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-08 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I know how Constantinople is supposed to be pronounced but it wouldn't necessarily be pronounced that way in an American accent. Like how the name of Cairo, Illinois is pronounced with an American accent.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm American. I have an American accent. I do not pronounce "Constantinople" in the way the secret describes. I would pronounce "Cairo" (as in Cairo, Egypt) with the first syllable rhyming with "pie" and the second syllable like "row your boat". Now, the Cairo in Illinois isn't pronounced that way, not because that's the American accent, but because historically people chose to pronounce the name of the town differently than they would the name of the city in Egypt. That's not quite the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
DA

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Americans talking about the city in Egypt say "KIE-ro." "Kay-ro" is just that one particular town in IL. There's also a Versailles, KY, pronounced "Ver-SAILS" (like sails on a ship) but when talking about the one in France we'd say more like "Vair-SIGH"

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Right but the point is that "Kay-ro" is how the word "Cairo" would be pronounced in an American accent. We know that Americans do have an accent and do pronounce things a certain way when they're saying them in that accent.

Americans also know that the correct way to pronounce the Egyptian city is "Kie-ro", because they're not totally ignorant. But if they didn't know that it was an Egyptian city which had a distinctive foreign pronunciation, they would say it in an American accent as "Kay-ro".

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's beyond ridiculous you seem to think that all Americans would of course pronounce "Cairo" as "Kay-ro" by default. I'm not sure you even understand what American accents are or how they work.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
No, the American-accept pronunciation of "Cairo" (the city in Egypt, KYE-ro) sounds different when an American says it than when an Egyptian says it. That's where the American accent would come in.

Cairo, Egypt and Cairo, IL are pronounced like the two different words that are spelled the same but sound different. Like "lead" (the toxic metal) and "lead" (opposite of follow)

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I'm not sure if American Accent Anon is trolling or just really confused and ignorant. If I see "Cairo" and I'm not sure if it means the city in Egypt or the city in Illinois, I pronounce it "KIE-ro". Because that's how it's pronounced, in an American accent. The city in Illinois is deliberately pronounced differently. It's not an accent.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm American. I have an American accent. That is almost exactly how I pronounce Constantinople - con-stan-ti-NOPE-uhl.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
That's how I pronounce it, too. Ty Knotts pronounces it Con stan ti NOPP uhl, where fourth syllable rhymes with "pop".

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard other people pronounce it that way (rhyming with pop) as well.

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
So take me back to Constantinopple
No you can't go back to Constantinopple
Been a long time gone, Constantinopple
Why did Constantinopple get the works?
That's nobody's business but the trucks

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
...th-the trucks??

(Anonymous) 2022-10-09 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
cackling