[ SECRET POST #5757 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5757 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

04. https://i.imgur.com/GC70Iwr.png

[(Anonymous)]

The line between abuser and idiot who uses abusive training techniques is a very fine one.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know this fandom or this character, but that statement doesn't work for me. Most abusers don't know they're abusive. They're not doing it on purpose out of sadism. They're just ignorant of how their victims feel and/or why it matters and/or what they could do otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

+100 this is really important and something that gets lost in every fandom discussion of abuse. "Abuser" isn't a job description; it's a relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

THIS. And it's also not an immutable identity. Almost anyone could be an abuser under certain circumstances. I'm suspicious of people who are convinced that they themselves could never become one.

[(Anonymous)]

EXACTLY. Hell, both of the people I've been abused by were abused themselves! No one sets out /intending/ to abuse someone.

[(Anonymous)]

You can be an abuser and an idiot at the same time. I'd say it's common.

[(Anonymous)]

Everybody in this series is an idiot tho.

[(Anonymous)]

How is this a secret?

[(Anonymous)]

How are you a whiny asshole? Some things just are.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a hard and messy line to draw between "idiot" and "abuser" when the subject is a character from a comedy-fantasy anime from the 80's. From a realistic standpoint, a lot of characters in that show and others like it are abusers. But the shows aren't realistic and the things they do that would realistically be abuse aren't reacted to like real abuse, the characters its inflicted on don't show any signs of being abuse victims, because it's not real and the rules of the fictional universe are different.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I wish people would keep in mind that this sort of fantasy-comedy series doesn't follow the rules of real life. Like when people call Akane an abuser for hitting Ranma all the time -- if this was a serious drama and he was constantly covered in bruises then yes, she would be an abuser, but in canon she can punch him into the stratosphere and he brushes himself off and is totally fine so I don't think that really counts (this was one of the things I really disliked about Your Lie in April incidentally, because it tried to do the comedy 'girls beating up male character' slapstick with a character who was canonically hit and abused by his mother, the funny violence only works in a universe where we know the cast treat being slapped the same as being bit by an insect).

[rosehiptea]

Yes. I don’t consider Gemma or Akane abusive for the same reason I don’t consider the Three Stooges abusive when they poke each other in the eye. (Not that I think the two canons are that much alike.) That said people sometimes make serious readings of media that aren’t designed for that (and I’ve done it too) so I can see the other side of it.

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DA

Yes, this. You can choose to read a cartoonish OTT canon as if it were realistic and serious and get a story out of that way if you want, but acting like it is the only way to read and interpret it, or the "correct" way, is just ridiculous.

Now I want a very serious angsty Three Stooges fic about the repercussions of abuse, lol.