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⌈ Secret Post #845 ⌋

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[Dollhouse]

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[Parasyte/Kiseiju]

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[Code Geass, Gankutsuou, Cowboy Bebop, Yoko Kanno]

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(Okage: Shadow King)

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[Samantha Ronsson and Lindsay Lohan]

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[The Princess and the Goblin]

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[Radio One]

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[Prince of Egypt]

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[max guevara, sam winchester, dark angel, supernatural]

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[Alien]

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[Kekkaishi]

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[House]

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[Marvel: Secret Invasion]

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[The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]

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[American Idol]

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[Super Junior (fanfic)]

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I can only assume s/he's talking about Israel, maybe? The sheer existance of it is pretty controversial (although not illegal, per se), and I wouldn't consider it European in ANY sense of the word. There aren't any countries that'd be considered illegal otherwise - places like South Ossetia, Kosovo, Northern Cyprus or Transnistria don't take place (although Georgia, Serbia, Cyprus and Moldova do and should).

And everyone DOES go through the semis o.o Absolutely everyone, excluding the Big Four (who bloody well SHOULDN'T) and whoever won the last one.

I thought it was just a typo or something but actually, it was just an ordinary antisemitism post? Nice.
Fail to see how Israel is any less European than countries like Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan is considered to be at the fringe of Eastern Europe, though - it's one of those borderline countries that fit both Eastern Europe and Western Asia. It's European in the same way that, say, Russia and Turkey are - borderlands, part of their territory in Europe and the rest in Asia. Israel, on the other hand, is wholely within Western Asia and/or the Middle East. Hell, it's closer to being in Africa than in Europe.

And just because someone disapproves of the existance of the State of Israel doesn't make them an antisemite. There are many, many Jews who aren't Zionists and who disapprove of the idea of essentially taking over Palestine and saying, "Right, this is OUR playpen now, and if you're not Jewish, you're officially a second-class citizen, and we can do that cos it says so in the Torah". I'm Jewish (ethnically, at least - religiously, I haven't been so since I was twelve), and the idea that a group of people from one religion can claim another country as their own because some old book said so is really, REALLY dodgy.

Yeah, TECHNICALLY it's a legal country, but I don't think it should be. Yes, there should be laws to allow people to practise their own religion, but every country should have that!

(Sorry, it was Yom Ha'atzmaut yesterday, so it's been on my mind.)

But I don't think the poster was being antisemitic by saying Israel shouldn't take part in Eurovision. It SHOULDN'T, if only by virtue of the fact that it's not in Europe!

Don't assume the poster was referring to Israel at all. I think it was just a general thing, and assuming what other people mean is usually a recipe for disaster.

FWIW, I think the rule is that every nation that is a paying member of the EBU have the right to compete. Which means technically, the US could apply for membership and a right to compete.

Yes, that's the rule. Morocco has been in it, Lebanon wanted to but withdrew because they then had to acknowledge the existence of Israel (as there's something in the EBU rules about how you treat the other members), and yeah, Israel is in it.

There is nothing in the EBU membership conditions that you actually have to be an European country. If you have a national *public* broadcaster, agree with the rules and pay up, you too can join the glory of Eurovision Song Contest.

Bwhahahaha.

...Fair enough >.> I did sort of make an assumption, there! (Although off the top of my head, Israel is the only country that competes that isn't European, so...)

Oh, huh o.o That would be... interesting!

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