[ SECRET POST #5771 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5771 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Harold and Maude]


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[Trigun Stampede]


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[True Blood]


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[UnEpic]


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[Something Wicked This Way Comes]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is the problem I'm bitching about. Everyone expects an overarching "plot" when there just needs to be situations that happen, and lives they live in instead. Bring back the stuff that happens every episode, instead of the "waaaaah, wanna big plot" type of shows. And fans thereof.

[(Anonymous)]

Except filler wasn’t always what that was, it was sometimes dissonant both tonally and in terms of writing than the rest of the show. Trimming that fat isn’t an inherently bad thing, and there’s still plenty of characters living their lives being who they want to be in Situations, it’s just not as sloppily written as filler could be. There’s plenty of simple character moments that aren’t rushing through character development.

Don’t get me wrong, filler isn’t inherently bad either. Some shows had some funny and heartfelt filler episodes. But it wasn’t like that a lot of the time with several shows, which is why filler used to be considered a bad word by anime fans. Especially because some of it(I’m specifically thinking of Inuyasha here, to be clear) was just drawing out the finale in frustrating and unsatisfying ways for no in-universe reason, with the irl reason being keeping the cash cow going as long as possible. There was frequently sloppy writing, you could tell when an episode wasn’t an adaptation of any manga chapters because it would feel jarring. For the anime that weren’t original projects of course.

Also, there’s no need to be dismissive of fans who want different things then you do, you’re not any more objectively correct about what anime should be like than they are. Not every 13 episode anime is even a “big plot” show, and most people don’t complain about that, they just don’t watch it if that’s not what they wanted. I think you’re being a little disingenuous in representing how people who like shorter and more self-contained anime think and behave. I get that it’s frustrating that not as much anime(although there is still some) is being made the way you prefer it now. That’s a relatable feeling. But that doesn’t mean the newer way is bad. You’re still valid in your feelings and preferences, and so are the others.

[(Anonymous)]

" there’s no need to be dismissive of fans who want different things"

Well isn't that the pot calling the fucking kettle.

[(Anonymous)]

Where was I being dismissive? I was trying to explain where people who like shorter anime(like the anon you were responding to) are coming from, while specifically saying both formats are good, and there’s some good filler. As well as that both types of fans are valid.

I was specifically responding to the “ Bring back the stuff that happens every episode, instead of the "waaaaah, wanna big plot" type of shows. And fans thereof.” part. Tell me where I said anything similar. It wasn’t my intention to be dismissive, and I don’t think I was. At least not to the degree of the last part of your response. It’s very dismissive to reduce the entirety of the fandom for 13 episode anime the way you did, to belittle the argument for something you don’t like by pretending it’s whining for something lesser. I like both shorter and longer anime. I’ve seen a large amount of both. I really don’t mean to, and don’t think I am, putting down fans of mult-season epics. Because I am a fan of those too. I thought I had strived to word my reply to make that clear. If I didn’t, that is genuinely my bad. But I’m not on either “side” of this.

I think the way you ignored the entirety of my comment in order to zero in on this one sentence is a reading in bad faith. Especially because you offered no example of “the pot calling the kettle black”.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It’s really not.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

All of this. There's nothing wrong with a beach episode or a hot springs episode or an episode where the gang finds a lost puppy and spends the episode trying to find its owner. The problem happens when the lost puppy plot turns into a ten-episode arc that really didn't need to exist and only detracts from the larger narrative. You could tell it was just being written and dragged out to fill air time rather than because it was serving any sort of meaningful character development or story purpose.

There are plenty of shows that genuinely need a 52-episode or more run in order to tell their full story. There are also plenty of shows that could have been trimmed down to half that length without actually losing anything.