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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-06 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #5784 ]


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(Anonymous) 2022-11-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I loved it! Just one of the fun ways the musical has been adapted. I’ve seen it on stage and I saw the Vegas spectacular, too. I rate West End as the best (any casting), 2004 movie next, Vegas Spectacular much lower, and the 2012 casting of Broadway (the only time I saw it on Broadway) as the worst of the versions I’ve seen. And all were enjoyable in different ways. The movie had great atmosphere and a lot more freedom to act out the story. The singing wasn’t bad but it gets a bad rap because it’s on film and because it wasn’t musical stage performers starring in it. They did better than some of the others I’ve seen (the Vegas Eric I saw was terrible and the Broadway one wasn’t much better, Gerard Butler was better than both of them).
I think most of the criticism I’ve seen stems from theatre snobs, a group that frankly does more harm than good to continuing musical theatre. And I think most of them are limited in their experience to only the most popular bootlegs and are unaware that plenty of stage productions cast less than perfect singers all the time.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-07 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
“And I think most of them are limited in their experience to only the most popular bootlegs and are unaware that plenty of stage productions cast less than perfect singers all the time.”


Limited to the most popular bootlegs, sure. But where on earth are you getting the assumption that musical fans who don’t like the 2004 Phantom movie are unaware that stage productions sometimes have less than perfect singers?? I don’t understand your reasoning for this at all, and I would bet good money you’re wrong about that. Especially because most people even outside of the musical fandoms are more than aware of the hit and miss nature of smaller and/or local theater productions.

The fact is, most fans of theater want the best possible adaptation if Hollywood is going to do it anyways. And that includes the best possible casts. So when someone who’s singing is mediocre at best like Butler gets cast as a character who’s singing talent is a major character trait, there will be disappointment. And that’s on top of many other choices for this movie that make sense as to why the Phandom weren’t pleased. Some of them might be snobs. But many are just fans of the musical, and the wider canon created by the original novel, who wanted a major adaptation like this to be better.

That doesn’t mean everyone should hate the movie, including fans of the musical, and it’s great that people do enjoy it. In general, I don’t think fans of the movie should be disparaged, and neither should fans of the musical who didn’t like it.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This.