[ SECRET POST #5790 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5790 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It’s always interesting to see the random way “anecdotal” is applied around here. No one is pulling out quantitative fandom data because that’s a thing that doesn’t exist. Everyone is speaking from their own experience and one person’s anecdotal experience is just as valid as anyone else’s in this thread.

[(Anonymous)]

(This will be a wall of text and I’m legitimately very sorry.)

It wasn’t random, I was using the definition of the word. Where did I use the word wrong? Because I’m pretty positive I didn’t. For ‘anecdotes’: “A short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person”. How is that not a description of someone giving their personal experience with a fandom? Just because they presumably weren’t telling it to be amusing or interesting doesn’t mean it doesn’t fit the word “anecdotal”. For “anecdotal” itself: “ (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.” Again, how does this not describe them giving their personal account of their experiences in the Star Wars fandom in regards to the sequels?

It’s interesting that you think I said the experience wasn’t valid when I didn’t. Their experience is valid. It’s also not universal. You might say that they never said it was. But they said(or agreed with the anon that said it if they’re a different person) that the majority of Star Wars fans hate the sequels. Then the other anon said that wasn’t true because the people that hate them aren’t really a majority just because they’re a large and significant group(with valid opinions, and nobody said they weren’t). And the response was “Objection noted. All the Star Wars fans I know do hate it”. Which very much sounds like a response to “the people that hate it aren’t the majority” with, “I think they might be based on my experiences”. But personal experiences are only anecdotes, not objective data. Hence, anecdotal experiences. It’s really bizarre that you think my use of the word is “random”, when the reason I used that word was something I made clear based on the fact that I was agreeing with someone being sarcastic at the anon for using the fact that their personal experiences are one way as some kind of response to someone else saying something isn’t a majority opinion.

And I never said anyone is pulling out the imaginary concept of fandom quantifiable data. I said someone seemed to be using personal anecdotal experiences as if it was remotely similar to objective data. “Literally everyone I know hates it” in response to “This opinion isn’t a majority” does sound like that. I don’t know why you’re acting as if I’m getting this from nowhere.

Also, if the validity of people’s opinions is important enough to you that you inferred that I was saying that anon wasn’t valid in their opinions when I didn’t, why isn’t the validity of the opinions of people who don’t think the sequels are all bad or universally hated given the same kind of defense? If just saying that someone’s personal experiences in fandom doesn’t make something the majority is somehow invalidating that person’s opinion and experiences, then someone using the fact that they have these experiences as some kind of counter to someone saying that opinion isn’t the majority would also be invalidating people who don’t share that opinion. It doesn’t mean that, but that’s because I wasn’t trying to invalidate anyone with my reply, and I really don’t think I did. I don’t think they were invalidating anyone either. Just possibly conflating personal experience with a majority.

That accusation is more random than anything in this entire thread, because nobody had been discussing or bringing into question the validity of anyone’s experiences before that. Nobody said anyone was lying about anything or that anyone shouldn’t feel any certain way. Just a disagreement about what constitutes a majority. And whether knowing a lot of people who hate the sequels counts as a majority. I know a lot of people that hate them too, I would have no reason to invalidate that anon even if I wanted to when my experience has been similar to the only personal experience they’ve shared in this thread. But just because my experience with the fandom has been similar in regards to a lot of people hating the sequels, I still disagree that it’s a majority opinion. And that’s why I said my comment. Because even if I knew only people who liked the sequels, I wouldn’t say that “actually I think the people who like them are the majority” just because that had been my experience. Because anecdotal experiences aren’t objective data. There is no objective data on this anyways, and I didn’t say there was. Just what doesn’t count as that for everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

lol, the original post was definitely not about how this is one anon's anecdotal experience and other people's anecdotal experience is also valid

thats just so flagrantly not what was happening here

[(Anonymous)]

This 100%.