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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-14 06:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #5792 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5792 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
To your first few paras, I think I've responded to these points in my other comments and you have just not taken them into account - you may want conversation to occur in a certain way, but that doesn't mean that it will or that it should

You also have repeated in general that OP should be allowed to express their opinion how they want to, but are continuing to say that other people should moderate themselves in response, and are continuing not to address my points re the hypocrisy of that

To your second point, yes I realised after I posted I misinterpreted your point on scrutiny

However, I still disagree. You think OP should be free from having to internally moderate their own thoughts. I agree. I just think OP should moderate their expression of their opinions if they want more civil responses to those thoughts in a public forum. If they don't want a civil response, they don't have to moderate. It's that simple.

You continue to hypocritically say you think OP should be able to be free from internal moderation in public expression, but that all responders to OP should have to scrutinise their responses before they reply. You continue to not address my points on that matter.

Re: your third pont, I don't think anyone except you thinks anyone is being hard done by ITT (in that you think OP is being hard done by by the critical responses they've received). Most people either are agreeing with OP, or saying 'gosh that's rude and silly'. Thinking an opinion is rude =/= thinking you are hard done by, btw. So I agree with your point, because it supports my argument more than yours. For instance, turn your last sentence around - if OP wanted an actual conversation, they could have rephrased before posting.

That said, there has been an actual interesting conversation going on in these threads - and it's mostly been about tone rather than the content of the secret itself. Which I think says something.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah I think my main point at this stage would just be that I do think that OP did moderate their statement, to wit, they acknowledged that it wasn't rational or founded in facts. I think that does constitute moderation of expression in a meaningful and substantive way.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
My opinion aside, from the weight of the majority of comments on this secret, it seems that that moderation was not sufficient to meaningfully nullify the rudeness of the content of the secret