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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-15 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #5793 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5793 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
A thing we see sometimes on tumblr is kids with "if you tag my art as proship I will block you".

So they're puriteens being puriteens, whatever on that, but - why specifically are they expecting people to tag... someone else's art... as a political stance...? I don't tag my art with my political stances.

Is this a thing that actually happened in some capacity or are they just signaling?

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Is this a response that went awry? I kind of want to reply, but also I'm confused.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
This is a top level comment (well, the "this is the general discussion zone" comment is the top level comment but details) to start a conversation cause I saw a thing on blue site and was like "what's up with that, maybe does anyone fandomsecrets know what's up with that?"

I'm currently a bit sleep deprived so it's possible my message(s) read[s] less coherently than I think it does

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, yeah, I'm definitely confused. Are you referring to "tagging as proship" as a political stance?

Okay, I'm going to presume for now that what you're asking is, "Why would a fanartist expect others to tag their art as proship? Why would someone tag another person's art as proship in the first place?"

I'm pretty sure the answer is, when people say "Don't tag my art as proship" they usually don't mean, "Do not put '#proship' in the tags when you reblog this." They mean, "If you reblog this, do not tag it with the ship name for these characters." Which is something a shipper might be inclined to do, mainly so that they can find that piece of art again by searching what, for them, is the correct tag. It's not political tagging, it's merely practical tagging.

With that said, I don't actually begrudge people for asking others not to tag their personal content as ship. I can understand how it might make someone uncomfortable if they'd drawn some fanart of, say, a parent-child relationship, and then people were tagging their art as ship, which could potentially result in lots of other people assuming the artist shipped that pairing. I support people's right to ship whatever they want, but I also support a person's right to be personally uncomfortable with a particular type of content, and to not want other people associating them with said content. Is it morally wrong to enjoy that fictional content? No. But as long as they're not bothering others for enjoying it, I think it's completely fine if they don't want to be associated with enjoying it themselves.

So when people have "Do not tag as ship" on their Irondad fanart, for instance, I respect their wishes and stick with the #Irondad tag, even if I like the art in a shippy way.

I ignore DNIs; you don't get to tell people they aren't allowed to like or reblog from your blog. But I have no problem with people asking me not to tag their stuff as ship. They didn't mean for it to be shippy and they're asking you to please not present it as shippy to others. Fair. I can respect that.

And if people actually are going around tagging other people's non-shippy art as "#proship" to make some kind of statement? Well that's just kind of rude tbh. If they want to do that they should save it for their own posts, IMO.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait maybe I know what it is, bear with me as I try to explain. Not that I have seen this happen in my fandoms but I can only guess (keyword: guess lol) .

Like on Tumblr you can reblog art, right? (duh) and those kids probably draw art of certain characters that are common """""problematic""""" (haha oh wow I hate this idea) ships in non-shippy ways. (personally I am thinking right now of Genshin Kaeluc because some people insist that they are siblings or PRSK Akitoya because they're minors.)

When someone else reblogs it, it's possible that they are not antis and they actually enjoy the couple. But maybe they have followers that are antis, and so they tag it as proship so that the antis can... not see the art on their dashboards. Or even, they ARE antis and they know a lot of people ship those characters even if they only like it as gen so they tag it as "proship" to allow other antis to avoid seeing such content, and at the same time allow non-antis to see it. But the artist is an anti actually, so they don't like to have their art tagged as proship? This is my best guess.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-16 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm maybe? This certainly is a plausible sequence of events which could have happened.

... maybe i should just ask the kid next time i see this lmao