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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-18 05:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #5796 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5796 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's kind of an open question in my mind how much more sense Genshin actually makes in Chinese. It would almost be nice if the problem was that the English translation was butchered, and there's something in clear language with (fairly) unambiguous meaning underneath the tangle of "character says four different contradictory things in quick succession and expects us to make heads or tails of it." But somehow, I suspect we are not so lucky.

Although, what I'd really like is if it were the sort of game that was hackable in that way that makes it possible for players to release deeply reworked mods, like Genshin minus all of Paimon's unhelpful filler lines. Or playable character models where the women DON'T have deformed legs (they're all obligatorily pigeon-toed).

(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - A lot I feel. If only because the English translation is so, SO badly butchered. But some things are deliberately confusing even in the original script, notably Dragonspine aka Sal Vindagnyr which the scriptwriters admitted to being ambiguous and confusing on purpose. But really, the more you look at least at the main story/quests, you will realize the contradictory things make sense more often than not. But the "point of view" of each character and what they see as truth or not really matters, hence honorable SMT. Not everything that is said is actually true. Items descriptions are the best lore sources, and they are so poetic and beautiful when they tell stories. But yeah, sometimes characters will say things that make little sense at first glance. At least that's my belief and nothing really contradicts it so far, hopefully someday I will write down my extensive thoughts on it.

The thing is... hmm... it's like sometimes they throw in stuff that wasn't in the initial plans, but "works" as filler-ish, but actually might work better in the world of Honkai because it's like B-grade isekai at best. But the deeper lore? The lost civilizations, Heavenly Principles and all that? That's some beautiful shit. And whatever glimpses we have (Enkanomiya, Mona's domain, quite a few Sumeru instances) only proves it.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well. That at least gives me the hope that in the future, we could have a version of Genshin that is well translated. I've seen fandom make a huge difference with keeping translations honest or at least making sure everyone who's interested in the subject knows about it when the main translation is misleading or censored or whatever. And I appreciate your observation about reading item descriptions. I've looked at them some, but without a clear sense for, you know ... who the heck was supposedly telling me all these things? ... I wasn't assuming the information was especially close to the truth.

If you do write down your thoughts, maybe you should link in F!S. Or at least, I'd be interested.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Same here. And there are plenty of theories on how Genshin may become just an offline game at some point in the distant future. Maybe we will get the whole condensed story in some type of media (at this point we can dream of an anime even!) in the future. That would be amazing ♥ But for the time being, yeah, fandom is super useful for that. Sadly I am not THAT much of a lore nerd so I can't pinpoint every inexact translation, but at this point we know some very important words and concepts, like Heavenly Principles, Primordial One and cataclysm have been butchered in translation, not to mention the "object that fell from the sky" / meteorite and so on. So it's really a mess so far.

The idea that item descriptions are the closest we have to the truths of Teyvat isn't something I made up, it was told by the developers at some point IIRC (gotta check my sources but pretty sure). As for the "who the heck", sometimes there is an answer (like the hypostasis descriptions are meant to be the Archons supposedly), often... not yet.

Aww, that's super nice, thank you for the interest. Sadly I am a bit behind in the story right now, kinda stuck in Sumeru AQ part 3 (thanks desert, lagging my computer was great!) but if I manage to catch up I will get to it and share here for sure.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT *nods*

It sounds like something fandom at large might already know, but I'm glad you mentioned it because I didn't know that. The ... things where they talk to the audience about the game so far seemed like mostly time-suck to me, so I get the promo codes from places that just post the codes and get on with the game. And sometimes I miss things that way.

Gah, I was going a little cross-eyed trying to wrap loose ends up in the desert. Won't say more if you're still working on it, just wanted to commiserate.

(Anonymous) 2022-11-19 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Yeah, I feel you. The dev talks aren't even a "version special program" thing, so it's even harder to find them + translations. As I started playing just before the 1st anniversary I had a lot to catch up on and by now I can't remember where I learned some things either. Whoops.

Gosh thanks a lot. Really I just wish I could turn on the "sandstorm" / dust effect 'cause that crap lags my computer a lot. See, I LOVE the desert, it's beautiful and fun and full of interesting stories. But I normally run Genshin very slowly on "very low" specs, so the desert is impossible for me :( sigh