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fandomsecrets2022-12-02 09:17 pm
[ SECRET POST #5810 ]
⌈ Secret Post #5810 ⌋
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[WARNING for discussion of rape/sexual assault]

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)I wish I could find another like it but yeah.
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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)That's basically what I was thinking. In my case, the D/s role essentialism decoupled from gender expectations, and the overlap with animal sex are both very appealing, but this *plot* just does nothing for me.
The idea of submissives having all this self-hate against their sexuality is a huge turn-off. And the "well, but it's okay if it's you," reminds me far too much of the internalized homophobia in a lot of early slashfic - which took pains to spell out that it's not that these excellent and very manly men were GAY in any broader sense, heavens no, they were sleeping with each other as the sole exception to their straightness because they were madly in love with each other.
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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)And crud, the above came out more harshly than I meant it. I don't want to denigrate what other people enjoy reading or writing, and hope the person you responded to finds the story they loved so much. It's just, I was reading this thread with a sense of "why don't I like ABO again? When it's got obscure kinky stuff that I go for in other sorts of stories?" and then someone mentioning this trope that seems like it's everywhere reminded me.
I guess part of my thing is that a lot of characters that I can see as submissive are not given to being emotionally out of control. They've already come to terms with their identity alone, by the time we see them in canon, and they own it. And ABO stories tend to shoe-horn them through the same vulnerable!virgin omega skeleton plot as everyone else.
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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)