[ SECRET POST #5811 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5811 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

The legends are from Wales, so to that extent he was Welsh.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah if you want to talk about him as a Welsh national myth that probably makes sense

although IMO even from that point of view, it's not 100% clear, bc the earliest mentions of the figure are from Welsh sources sure, but the actual matter of the Arthur mythos doesn't necessarily come from those sources. it comes from later writers expanding on those references - and those later writers weren't really Welsh. but, still, the ultimate source of those myths is definitely Welsh.

[(Anonymous)]

The earliest source we have is Scottish, from The Gododdin poem Y Gododdin, where it says of one guy that he fought well but was no Arthur. And that is it. That is all we have. That is the original lore, that there was a guy called Arthur from the Ancient Kingdom of Gododdin and he was a good fighter, certainly better than this guy called Gwawrddur.

Although even calling him Scottish is a bit of a misnomer, since the poem is in Old Welsh from the 7th-9thC, although suspected to be a translation of a much earlier work circa 4-6thC, but about a Kingdom of Brythonic peoples who predated all the current Kingdoms and Principalities of the UK, and mere happened to overlay part of the UK that is currently South East Scotland.

[(Anonymous)]

Y Goddodin is Welsh

[(Anonymous)]

Read what I wrote.

[(Anonymous)]

to the best of my knowledge, there's nothing that says Arthur was from Goddodin. like he's mentioned in Y Goddodin but nothing in it identifies him as being from Goddodin