[ SECRET POST #5815 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5815 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen a lot of No Homo freakouts in my time, but I don't think that was one of them. I think it was just a dumb idea that they went with because they didn't want to kill of three founding Avengers at once. I share the rest of your opinion about it, though!

[tabaqui]

Eh. I'll have to agree to disagree; I think it totally was. Cap/Mr. Evans had a hell of a lot more chemistry with Bucky/Mr. Stan than he did with pretty much anyone else (especially Sharron). I liked him with Peggy, but not to the point where I wanted all of her accomplishments and *happy life* to vanish. Blech.

[(Anonymous)]

They had their first No Homo freak out in Civil War. They realized once they were done with the first round of editing that a lot of the feedback was that stuff was pretty gay between Steve and Bucky so they went back to film that kiss scene with Sharon. That's why that scene comes out of NOWHERE. Once the film was released, people HATED that scene and Marvel dumped the relationship.

They could have had an ending where Steve didn't die and also didn't go back with Peggy. It would have been trivially easy. But they still wanted No Homo so they went back to Peggy. Literally. And they didn't care how it ruined all the characterization, and frankly the plot, to do it. Cause No Homo.

[(Anonymous)]

This. So much this.

[(Anonymous)]

I can believe that the kiss scene was an intentional No Homo thing.

The rest of it, I think it's just bad writing.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it was just a dumb idea that they went with because they didn't want to kill of three founding Avengers at once

Agreed. There are plenty of instances of No Homo out there, but I don't think this was one of them. Which makes it less shitty and hurtful, but in some ways more annoying.

[(Anonymous)]

I think they were just being very hetronormative wrt Peggy tbh than fully no-homo, I think a bit was there because they did know about the shipping and imo CW seemed almost determined to have Steve and Bucky avoid any meaningful moments of any sort, but Steve's ending came off to me as more of 'oh shit we haven't written an actual love-interest for this dude, uh, lets just give him back to Peggy' despite both of their character having moved past that point. And I like Steve/Peggy, it's cute, but that part of their story was over by then.

Saying that I also wasn't surprised they did it, I called it like 6 months before the movie came out in a 'wouldn't it be funny IF' way and then laughed when it happened.

[(Anonymous)]

All you guys up-thread, the fact that they went with Peggy, either being lazy writing, or being heteronormative, or making him have a love interest in the first place - ALL of that is No Homo. If they weren't upset about people shipping Stucky, if they didn't care about making sure that Steve was straight, they wouldn't have bothered with any of it.

You don't HAVE to have a love interest. The love interest doesn't have to be straight. They did it anyway. It's all No Homo.

[(Anonymous)]

I do not believe that the only reason a movie would include a het romance is because they were afraid people would think that the character was gay otherwise

Including het romances is just a normal and commonplace thing to do. It doesn't need to have been done for No Homo reasons because they just do that sort of thing regardless. I don't know where you get this idea from that they wouldn't have bothered with a het romance otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - because Marvel (homoeroticism until proven otherwise)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes but this is Hollywood where het romances get shoved into every action movie regardless of whether ir fits and I can assure you none of them are doing it to avoid the gay, they're doing it because that's just what happens in movies: a man and woman fall in love because of reasons.

And I'm the anon who thinks there was a little no-homo reasoning to Steve's story, I just don't think that was the only reason and it mainly fell down to the standard hetronormativity Marvel movies are steeped in.