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⌈ Secret Post #5837 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. This is common with two of the main actors in my fandom. One of them mentioned he think he *might* have ADHD in an interview once and suddenly a segment of the fandom was like "omg, he said he's autistic in that interview!" and like, ummm...no he didn't?

The other has never mentioned anything even remotely close to the topic, but a large portion of the fandom has decided he is because "his personality seems like he is" like wtf does that even mean?

[(Anonymous)]

Our Flag Means Death? I remember Rhys Darby saying he was probably on the spectrum somewhere a few months back and the fandom really lighting up with that. Haven't seen it myself, but I could definitely believe they're projecting onto Taika too given how quirky his signature style is.

[(Anonymous)]

Oof...

Like, it's one thing to, in a convo with friends, describe a celeb as seeming autistic if they share your personal autistic mannerisms-- everyone in that convo knows the tone is light/unserious, and it's not posted out there as Truth for a bunch of strangers to run around with. With one of my friends, we're both autistic and bonded over a shared interest in an actor who VERY much shares autistic traits with both of us, and if we watched an interview together and caught a specific mannerism, yeah, we joke about it. But we're not diagnosing the guy, or having that convo out on, say, twitter for all the world to see, and I'm... not surprised that there are people without boundaries about it. But like... save the public diagnoses and discussions for fictional characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. It sucks and it's increasingly too prevalent in fandom for comfort. Related, I just don't understand why so many people feel like they *have* to have a medical diagnosis now. It's one of the worst things about the internet, people either labeling themselves or labeling others without a professional diagnosis. It's okay to have certain personality traits - those personality traits aren't necessarily an indicator of anything neurodivergent with your or someone else's brain. Spicy take, I know, but most people who self identify as autistic probably have never met anyone who is legitimately autistic. It's like night and day; being merely awkward isn't enough to don that crown.

[(Anonymous)]

Spicy take, I know, but most people who self identify as autistic probably have never met anyone who is legitimately autistic.

Asshole take, you mean? Many people who self-identify as autistic do it because they don't have access or don't want a diagnosis. This doesn't make them any less autistic. There is not one "legitimate" way to be autistic and it definitely doen't require a diagnosis. You're an ableist asshole, but we already knew this just by reading your comment.

[(Anonymous)]

"There is not one "legitimate" way to be autistic and it definitely doen't require a diagnosis."

This is a dangerous slippery slope that can be applied to both this topic and too many other things.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It’s really not a slippery slope, and trying to use the slippery slope fallacy here is disingenuous. It’s true that there’s not one “legitimate” way to be autistic. It’s a spectrum for a reason. And there’s a difference between being skeptical of self-diagnosis and gatekeeping autism.

[(Anonymous)]

It absolutely does require a professional diagnosis. Especially since there are other neurological issues that might be the reason for certain behaviours that never get diagnosed because suddenly everyone and there dog is "on the spectrum" via self-diagnosis for every little quirk they display.

[(Anonymous)]

Spicy take, I know, but most people who self identify as autistic probably have never met anyone who is legitimately autistic.

look, even ignoring all the arguments about different kinds of diagnosis entirely, this is almost certainly untrue just purely on a statistical level

[(Anonymous)]

You got some stats to back it up? No, of course not. Because people who self identify aren't getting diagnosed professionally.

[(Anonymous)]

????

I'm not even talking about self-diagnosis or anything like that. Even if autism prevalence is very low, it's still overwhelmingly likely that most people have met at least one autistic person at some point in their lives. You would have to think that "legitimate" autism is vanishingly rare for that not to be the case. As far as I can tell, most estimates put autism prevalence at somewhere around 1% of the population, and most people meet far more than 100 people during their lifetimes.

[(Anonymous)]

Not a spicy take, a very privileged take. You need that diagnosis to get accommodations in your workplace, but natch being diagnosed is VERY hard. It's especially perverse to make autistic people jump through all these hoops because it's one of the problems used for diagnosis: executive dysfunction. So many roadblocks, especially if you're an adult, especially if you're in the US, ESPECIALLY if you're a woman. Of course I'm going to self diagnose when I exhibit 90% of the symptoms listed, because as an adult american woman I would have to work very hard and spend a lot of money to get a diagnosis. So I just tell people I'm autistic to manage expectations and be done with it.

And yes, I have "met someone who is legitimately autistic", one of my nibblings was professionally diagnosed as a child.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, It's astonishing the number of people who have a relative get diagnosed and then go oh, that's the same as me. Especially kids getting diagnosed then parents realising they're just the same and getting a diagnosis too. ADHD and autism both.

[(Anonymous)]

If you self-diagnosis for every symptom list you find online you end up having every illness and every mental disorder and you know why? Because of confirmation bias.

[(Anonymous)]

On one hand, yes, agreed completely. I'm still reeling from how rpf fans would say how certain actors were gay, back in the day...

But on the other hand, this reminded me to make a secret about how I think David Lynch is autistic.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree wholeheartedly. Other people's health, other people's identities, ect. that's for them to share, not for others to invent or assume. There's a world of difference between saying "I've noticed (person) has these traits and it reminds me of..." and "(Person) has/is..."

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, especially when people are judging these celebrities on how they act in interviews and in front of a camera. They're not natural situations. You're only seeing a fraction of their lives. You shouldn't be trying to diagnose anything when you have the full picture, let alone just a fraction of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man, I hate that too, I feel like people zero in on these tiny things and are like "So autistic <3" while ignoring the MANY neurotypical traits the person exhibits... but also, the person could be genuinely autistic and not open about it or not diagnosed or something and it would still be inappropriate to talk about it the way some people do. A real person shouldn't become like a comfort character that you see yourself in, that's really unhealthy.

[(Anonymous)]

*sigh* if it isn't shipping its this kind of thing. I wish people could tell the difference between doing that kind of shit with fictional characters and real life actual people.

[(Anonymous)]

i see this way too often tbh. one of the people in my fandom kept saying how this very personal autobiographical song (about being an actor among other things) is actually about autism and they "related to the song so much because they're autistic". like bitch you're an 19 year-old religion-crazed Georgian living in the middle of nowhere, how does your life remotely compare to this middle-aged performer's life from the other side of the world? he's not even autistic ffs

[(Anonymous)]

It’s just rpf with slacktivism cred. Let it go.

[(Anonymous)]

people need to start learning how to detach themselves from celebrities as if they know their mental state personally

[(Anonymous)]

I wish people would stop that and care about themselves.
It's annoying af to read all these assumptions.

Same goes when they do it for fictional characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a friend who does this with people IRL and it drives me NUTS!