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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-30 07:11 pm

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rosehiptea: (Crash Landing on You)

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2022-12-31 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I do think he thought of himself as a guy, but I think discussions about gender being a social construct could be a good thing that would come out of new Ranma material. (As opposed to a reason to be opposed to new Ranma material.) And there were other gender-bending characters but that's not a bad thing.

I don't remember it being problematic either but I've also learned a lot since then. But I think ideally it could spark interesting discussions, as opposed to otherwise. Maybe I'm looking at it through rose-colored glasses though.

Actually the only thing that I can think of that would be truly problematic would be Happosai stealing underwear from teenage girls. That was always pretty sketchy IMO.
Edited 2022-12-31 02:39 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, stealing girls' underwear and other humor based on sexual harassment is probably going to be the main issue in remakes, and I don't consider that bad at all. Nor is it being forced by "Western sensibilities" like the popular weeb narrative goes. There was a (Japanese-made) fan video about the changes cutting out the creepy fanservice played for laughs in the remake of one of the Dragon Quest anime, which doesn't have much of an audience in the West. It was done because the audience is young boys and they noticed hey, apparently little kids like to copy things they see on TV sometimes, so maybe let's not enable them to go around lifting girls' skirts up?

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly IMO the dumb Western sensibilities ARE to blame for some of the puritanism going on nowadays, having said that I don't see what is problematic about Ranma at all. That's really just making everything problematic and that's coming from someone who was (derogatorily) regularly called a SJW 10-something years ago.

Guy changes sex because water. So? What? Magical hijinks that could happen in real life if we had magical hijinks IRL. Stealing underwear from teenage girls is problematic but it's not like it doesn't happen IRL lol. (Ace Attorney 4 comes to mind as another instance of panties-stealing thief.)

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely nobody in any country (with negligible exceptions that don't count, meaning yes some nobody has probably said something on the internet somewhere, but it left no impact) has an issue with the premise of Ranma 1/2. If they did, they'd have made a fuss about it with or without a remake. It's still a fairly well-known series. Hand-wringing about the thought of it being ruined or not able to be remade because waaaah Westerners and their delicate puritanism is, frankly, creating a strawman.

Let's say a studio discusses the possibility of doing a remake, but then says "We decided not to because we don't think it would be received well because of society's changing attitudes about gender." That would be a strawman stoking the hysteria over "SJWs." It would be like when Hulu removed an episode of The Golden Girls because there was a joke where they were wearing mud masks that accidentally looked like blackface because of bad timing. Nobody had a problem with that episode. Nobody asked for its removal. Not "SJWs" or anyone else. Hulu just went and took it down, and then everyone else said "THIS IS WHAT THE WORLD HAS COME TO. LOOK AT WHAT THE SJWS MADE THEM DO." You're way too worried about this influence of PC culture that literally does not exist except when you make it exist in advance.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
+infinity

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
its been AGES sknce ive read or watched ranma but i do remember that happosais underwear stealing was hated and reprimanded steadily during the series.
rosehiptea: (Crash Landing on You)

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2022-12-31 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Other characters absolutely didn't approve of it but it was still used as a source of humor (like just about everything else that happened in Ranma 1/2) and I think that kind of humor is less acceptable now than it was then.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-31 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it was annoying and repetitive. Not because of any moral posturing.