[ SECRET POST #5848 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5848 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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02.
[Glass Onion]


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03.
[Josh Groban]


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04.
[Greta (2018) & Suspiria (2018)]


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05.
[The Witcher]


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06.
[The Newsroom (2012)]


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07.
[Aunty Donna]


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08.
[Final Fantasy VII]


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[Crazy Ex-Girlfriend]
















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Comments

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

You cannot be this sort of person without at least invoking the trappings of connections and wealth. the reality distortion does not work without it.

I pretty much agree with that. But even if the trappings of privilege are a necessary condition for doing this sort of thing, they are not a *sufficient* condition for doing it IMO. The kind of behavior that we're talking about goes way beyond just having access to and exploiting the trappings of privilege. Most people who take advantage of the trappings of privilege are not doing what a Mark Zuckerberg does, an Elizabeth Holmes, a Steve Jobs, an Elon Musk. There is a difference between a "normal" privileged idiot, and someone who does the whole tech visionary business genius fraud thing.

Proximity to power and privilege is a crucial element that shapes societal perceptions. But there's also reasons beyond that why people are willing to go so far down the garden path with Elizabeth Holmes or Elon Musk or Adam Neumann. There are specific things that they do that make them good at being fraudsters, beyond just taking advantage of privilege and networks.

the investors are not a separate part of steve jobs success, they're the main part.

I think if you look at what Steve Jobs actually did and accomplished, especially earlier in his career, this is not really the case. His ability to convince a bunch of insanely talented tech people to let him take advantage of their work was absolutely crucial to his success. Convincing Wozniak to start a business based on Woz' early Apple circuit board design, convincing Bill Atkinson to work for Apple, stealing the Macintosh project from Jef Raskins after losing an internal power struggle on the Lisa project and then getting the Mac team to actually bring the Mac into existence - none of that is fundamentally about dealing with investors, but without Jobs doing those things, the Mac would not exist (and the world would probably be a better place, but that's not the point) (also there's probably more to say about Jobs, class, privilege and capital access but that's a longer and more complicated conversation that we don't need to get into)

why their conning worked and other people's didn't is the wealth and connections.

Yeah, again, I basically agree with that, but I think that they had a bunch of attributes that made them good at conning in addition to the wealth and connections. The wealth and connections matter but there's also a lot more stuff on top of that.