case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-13 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #5852 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5852 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


01.



__________________________________________________



02.



__________________________________________________



03.
[Nu: Carnival]



__________________________________________________



04.



__________________________________________________



05.



__________________________________________________



06.



__________________________________________________



07.



__________________________________________________









































08. [SPOILERS for Attack on Titan/Berserk]




__________________________________________________



09. [SPOILERS for Scum Villain's Self-Saving System]




__________________________________________________



10. [SPOILERS for Deltarune]




__________________________________________________



11. [WARNING for discussion of non-con themes]




__________________________________________________



12. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia/non-con]




__________________________________________________



13. [WARNING for discussion of suicide, sexual assault, sexual assault involving a minor]



















































Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #837.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
1) To be perfectly clear, I don’t think the goblins are intended as explicitly antisemitic. But they could perhaps be considered an unfortunate modern instance of some antisemitic tropes being thrown together uncritically.

That doesn’t seem out of character for Rowling, who seems more into referencing than dissecting. Pratchett, especially later on, did a lot of dissecting and “playing with”, which makes his use of fantasy lore hit a bit different.

2) “What about the house elves?”
People who are critical of the goblins’ portrayal can also think that the house elves’ portrayal is bad. Or even worse. Multiple things can be bad and they can be different levels of bad, but all worth talking about.

People have been loudly complaining about the house elves since they were introduced in the books. And the discourse gets stirred up again every so often. The goblins seem to be getting more attention and discussion now because they are featured in the video game.

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I got the impression Jo really didn't bother examining the underlying... issues in the old boarding-school fiction like the Greyfriars books.

Come to think of it, given her depicition of fat folks in those books it's amazing we didn't get the wizarding world version of Billy Bunter...

Re: Secrets you don't want to make...

(Anonymous) 2023-01-14 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

1. I'd agree that, overall, Rowling does more trope referencing than deconstructing. But I think what people tend to hear when someone claims her goblins are anti-semitic is that, if they let children read HP, they will pick up prejudices against Jews from it.

2. While it's true that people can object to both, what I see people objecting to now, any time HP comes up, is that Rowling's political opinions are unwanted, and also this. But your mention that there's a (new?) video game, and the goblins have a larger role in it, may explain a lot.