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⌈ Secret Post #5858 ⌋

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[philstar22]

Uh, it isn't like the other fantasy ceased to get. Yes, I do think there is a disproportionate amount of grimdark. But the other stuff is still on the shelves. It isn't like kids only ever read things the year they are published.

[(Anonymous)]

This is not an insult, but you sound like people on booktok who say booktokkers only recommend the same five books and there's no diversity.

It's there if you look for it (and no, don't ask me, I'm not really a fantasy/SF-fantasy reader so I can't give any recommendations), I've seen a lot of different genres come up on my fyp and I've only had tiktok for like, six months.

[(Anonymous)]

My experience has been that there's relatively little discussion of SF specifically and that SFF discussion does tend to cluster around a relatively small number of trendy new books and nailed-on classics.

But both of those things are also true of SFF discussion outside of tiktok too, it's definitely not a tiktok specific problem.

[(Anonymous)]

literally just get off algorithmic social media and go to any

1) website that is actually about SFF. you can't be on tor.com for 5 minutes without finding 20 books that look wildly intriguing with all kinds of different settings and tones, including high fantasy. try author blogs of authors you like also instead of 'look how much I read that's trendy' blogs

2) an actual bookstore. ask a staffperson if they have high fantasy recs, or just browse that section

3) ditto library. i went to my local library for ONE book I had on hold, based by the New Acquisitions shelf and left with 6 books including some high fantasy

4) get the shortlists for the Hugos/Nebulas/World Fantasy Awards for the last few years and comb through the summaries for anything that catches your interest. this is extremely easy to google.

5) if you do anything at all through amazon, once you've bought a few high fantasy books through the above method, pretty soon you'll get SO many recs you will be desperate

6) unless you think anything harrowing than squeeze cheese and unicorns counts as grimdark, we are living in a goddamn golden age of lush high fantasy worlds and I cannot get them into my brain fast enough. if you do think most of it is grimdark read, idk, Eragon. that's as classic high fantasy as you can get, completely undiluted by an original thought.

[(Anonymous)]

HOW COULD I FORGET

7. sign up for Bookbub.com with your ebook vendor and genres of choice, get emails regularly for huge sales tailored to your interests

Chirp for audiobooks same deal

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT and sorry, I should have been clearer!

I know that there's lots of SFF books out there and those are definitely very helpful tips for finding new ones. But I was thinking more about discussion of books - even when I find books I want to read, once I've read them, it's often quite difficult to find active discussions and content about them, outside of a few hyped books and some classic mainstays.

In other words, there's absolutely a huge diversity of books *out there*, and you can find recs if you look for them (and I do!). But I haven't seen a wide range of books actually getting actively talked about and engaged with. On Tiktok, or in other places. (and then the other thing is that for both recs and discussions, there's just always much more fantasy than there is science fiction, but that's just other people having different preferences than me and liking fantasy more than SF)

[(Anonymous)]

I get you, but also holding up the reams of published fanfic (Trek and Who let alone Forgotten Realms) as better, I'mma have to question your tastes, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Some 90s Who novels are genuinely good! They got some actually good writers involved and they didn't give them a ton of creative restrictions. Star Wars and Star Trek novels were also more interesting in the 80s/90s than tie-in fiction is now. I wouldn't call them good but people cared a lot less about brand integrity at least.

[(Anonymous)]

The only had two restrictions, no regenerations (because Doctor Who magazine pulled that card and the story bombed), and, eventually, no real life swears. The latter because Ben Aaronovitch published a DW book called transit whose original manuscript, by the author's own admission, contained more profanity than Trainspotting.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, three, no outright appearances of the Daleks because of rights issuses, but cameos and references to them were okay and Benny's backstory was pretty Dalek heavy.

[(Anonymous)]

"Sparkly vampires"? Is Twilight really still that much of a figure on the YA scene? Or are there new sparkly vampires that I missed?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it definitely wasn't a good reference point to use. It makes OP seem pretty out of touch with current YA fiction, if they think Twilight is more than peripherally relevant at this point. I'm 35 and Twilight is a lowkey guilty pleasure of mine, but even I know it hasn't been on the pop-cultural hot list for like a decade.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was gonna say yes, there's a lot of grimdark right now, but vampires sparkled up until 2010/2012.

We're back into the Anne Rice vamps and Disney vamps, and all other kinds of vamps. Preacher, Things We Do in the Shadows, Monster High, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Came here to say this... that reference is a decade out of date, makes me think OP doesn't know what they're talking about

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but if they're using sparkly vampires as a symbol of the YA urban fantasy horror-romance love interest figure, then Twilight definitely still has a presence in YA. The books themselves have lost popularity, but like them or not, their influence is still prevalent. Even works that aren't aware that they exist because of Twilight, exist because of Twilight.

[(Anonymous)]

I was around for that "golden age" and while there certainly was a lot of good and/or fun fantasy around, 90% of it was still shit. Even more so for Forgotten Realms! You've got your nostalgia goggles on pretty hard, I have to say.

[dantesspirit]

This is why Used Bookstores, ABEbooks and libraries are godsends.

Because yes, the variety is a lot less on mainstream book store shelves, as the section for SF/F has shrunk considerably over the years.

The books we want still exist, it's just not as easy to walk into a new bookstore and randomly find them on the shelf anymore.