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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-01-26 09:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #5865 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5865 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Just as everyone else has said; Yes. Fandom has always been like this.
But more than anything, it is also true that no matter how you dig, you'll always find shit in the end.

The platforms of today make it extraordinarily easy to pick and see the worst in people. If you get along with somebody, just take it as it is. Don't go looking into their dirty laundry because you'll always come across something you have issue with, no matter how clean they are/might seem to be.
To put it into perspective, I'm sure people read just as much into you. So, like, don't judge until you have to or whatever.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I was just talking about this above! The platforms deliberately promote "engagement" (i.e. the wankiest and worst).

(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure which response you mean, but regardless, this is absolutely true.
I genuinely miss forum styled sites where an algorithms didn't authorize anything that I saw/was eligible to see/read.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
But the problem is that you don't have to dig anymore. The shit is just there all the time, wherever you are. And even if you try to avoid it, you'll get it flung at you.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

OP specifically mentioned the fact that they only felt wronged after looking into the people they got along with in the first place.
It's always been generally easy to look at previous posts and whatnot for each specific profile. What makes it easier in terms of today, is that a lot of people link multiple profiles without asking, let alone making them separate from anything that could be called personal.
Long story short, is that you still have to look, still have to click, to find out something you didn't want to know. Easy or not, it's only a surprise to people who go on looking.

(Anonymous) 2023-01-27 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
DA.

Not sure about OP, but the way I interpreted this secret, it's not about how easy/difficult it is to find someone's bad opinions on their blog if you go digging through their archive (searchable archives aren't new; people with bad opinions that you can stumble across if you go searching long enough aren't new); it's about how easy/difficult it is to come across PEOPLE in fandom who think it's perfectly okay to call people names and wish death on them and they don't see any issue with their behavior (apparently because they receive enough positive feedback on their behavior that they see no reason to change or be ashamed of their posts) (the prevalence of people publicly and unapologetically terrible IS new, IMO). It's like there has been a whole generation who hasn't learned manners (or have learned a set of moral norms so alien from mine that they seem like they don't have manners).

Like, it used to be the case when fandom was largely done in moderated communities, that you had to treat other members with respect even if you disagreed with them. Otherwise you would be warned and eventually booted from the space and so people would learn that their behavior wasn't acceptable. But now you have a whole generation of fans who weren't raised that way and they think it's perfectly fine to accuse other fans of serious crimes and publicly say they want them to die and other fans validate them in these opinions. So then they never learn it's a shitty way to interact with people on the internet.

Similarly, a difference I have noticed with interacting with people on Dreamwidth vs. Tumblr is that people on Dreamwidth treat you like a real person with hobbies and personal life issues and things you do outside the internet, whereas on Tumblr, it's like you ONLY get to know people as like a disembodied Internet Personality or a witty take/content-generator, and I think that makes a huge difference in whether people think it's okay to casually insult or issue death threats on other fans.