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Re: Fandom Talk/Vent?
(Anonymous) 2023-02-14 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)>> I'm pretty sure great-scale piracy for video games isn't the "stick it to the rich" activism airt is imagining.
I've never said that pirating the game would be "activism". How is NOT GIVING MONEY at launch activism?!
Do you think corporations and creators are ENTITLED to your money and depriving them of 60/70 euros for a copy of a game is activism? WHY?!
I suggested piracy because that's the first thing that came to my mind, thinking that people would've wanted to play this game almost immediately and there are crakers working on it (also, for me the biggest issue for me is Denuvo on PC FUCK 'EM.), but you know that people can just wait a little bit and get a second hand copy or rent it, so not to give full price at launch? Is THAT activism? How is that different from piracy when the result is almost the same by the creators' POV?
If you think not giving money to a corporation is activism there's something fucking wrong here. This is what baffles me and I don't understand about these times.
It takes ZERO and I mean ZERO EFFORT not to buy a game at launch. That's the bare minimum of an action you have to take. You just have to do nothing AND SAVE YOUR MONEY! That is what I don't understand. It's not activism because you're not taking any actions, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE WORLD BETTER BY NOT BUYING A GAME!
But in this specific case by not "acting" you're also not directly endorsing JKR's distorted views. And I say this because she has a big problems and has demonstrated that she view any endorsment of Harry Potter's universe like an endorsment to her anti trans views and politics.
This is a very particular case here. It's important because it's JKR we are talking about.
Also, I'm not going to play nor pirate this game. I don't care at all about Harry Potter. So please save all your effort in trying to make me feel guilty about "not paying the developers". They're not getting my money anyway.
Re: Fandom Talk/Vent?
(Anonymous) 2023-02-14 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)Pirating it because it is the right and moral thing to do because the copyright owner is in your eyes morally reprehensible: Activism/slacktivism of the same type as calling for boycotts.
Of course corporations and creators are not entitled to your money if you don't want the goods they are selling. But if you want them then yes, they kinda are. Buying it second hand or renting it means someone already gave them money for it so it doesn't really change that - someone paid them for their goods. Just because it's not you doesn't mean the money has not been paid.
And I know you missed this, but I was talking about airt, not OP - I'm aware that these are two different people and the one I meant wrote "the more I observe filthy rich corporations charging as much as they think they can, the less patience I have for the notion that the poor "deserve" to be shut out" which does imply that not paying for a game is some sort of anti-corporation pro-poor people activism in some way or another.
I only told you that it's not as easy as you think to pirate a game.
Re: Fandom Talk/Vent?
(Anonymous) 2023-02-14 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)Yeah, I get it now. Sorry. I honestly though you were talking about me, the OP.
>>Not buying it and pirating it instead: Not activism.
Pirating it because it is the right and moral thing to do because the copyright owner is in your eyes morally reprehensible: Activism/slacktivism of the same type as calling for boycotts.
I don't agree. I mean, I agree that people try to make it pass like activism and that's bullshit, but it's really not. Also boycotts in the sense of NOT BUYING A PRODUCT are not activism for me. That is what confuses me lol
So probably we actually agree with each other on this IDK
I don't agree on your stand about renting a copy is different to pirating because the copy has already been sold to someone. Maybe you're not aware that there are some software houses that want to limit how and how much people can rent or borrow games from friends. For a corporation's POV they are almost exactly the same. The result is the same for them.
The only difference is the legality of acquiring the copy.
>>I only told you that it's not as easy as you think to pirate a game.
I agree, especially for the case of AAA games like this. But it's not impossible if you have patience and invest a little bit of time in hunting for trustworthy sources.
Re: Fandom Talk/Vent?
(Anonymous) 2023-02-14 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)Yeah, no issue, it does get confusing, especially when reading on flat.
We can absolutely agree to disagree on this. I wouldn't call it activism per se myself, slacktivism at best, just like the calls for boycotting brands like Chick-fil-A when you didn't actually go there in the first place. Saying "I pirate this because of moral reasons" is more along the lines of virtue signalling to me.
>>But it's not impossible if you have patience and invest a little bit of time in hunting for trustworthy sources.
True, unless it's consoles like Playstation or XBox - I think it's still pretty much not a thing for those. Nintendo is a different matter, there it depends on the console.