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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-17 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #5886 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5886 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Stargate SG-1]



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09. [SPOILERS for Treasure Planet]




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10. [WARNING for discussion of incest]

[Vampire Game]



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11. [WARNING for possible discussion of transphobia (JK Rowling related)]




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12. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, other bigotry, suicide]
























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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
lol - this is unfortunately me and about a third of my yaoi collection that I collected as a teenager way back in the day (I was actually thinking of this sort of thing the other day; where the stories of gay couples/characters bond with other characters in incestuous or adulterous situations. It happens a lot and I suppose the idea is 'I can totally understand you friend' when really one thing is not like the otherrrr :'D)

I still have a soft spot for some of the stories, but yeah I'm glad that there's so much more queer media available now.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
DA

See, this sort of thing was less threatening for me because I read a lot of mythology as a kid. Which was just as hidebound about trying to play out morality in its stories as anything modern, but had a sense of what was and wasn't moral that bore little resemblance to what anyone now thought. So, there were all these heroes who were obsessed with what their name would be associated with after death, but didn't bat an eye about straight-up dismembering and murdering their enemies. And all these scenes where the chorus was basically interrupting the plot to tell you what an idiot the protagonist was for thinking they could evade their fate or improve the human condition beyond what the gods thought was proper. And also, there goes another rape and no one cares. Now that rape victim was a man, but he was a really attractive man, and the assailant was a god, so again, everyone in the story is acting like that happening was self-evident and totally normal. It was all really helpful for reminding me that even though the author has ideas about what should be punishable and not - even when they share those ideas with their entire culture and time period - they are not necessarily right. At all. Keeping that close to my heart as a gay kid was very good for me. And watching American culture change in real time from one where Leslie Fish had to fight hard to get *fandom* to seriously entertain the idea that Kirk/Spock wasn't an obscene and slanderous proposition, to one where gay adults kiss onscreen and survive the story has been ... well, amazing, actually. So I tend to cut mangakas slack for that sort of thing. Often, they were already getting away with a hell of a lot more than they would have if they'd been trying to publish in the states.