[ SECRET POST #5886 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5886 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Stargate SG-1]



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09. [SPOILERS for Treasure Planet]




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10. [WARNING for discussion of incest]

[Vampire Game]



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11. [WARNING for possible discussion of transphobia (JK Rowling related)]




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12. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, other bigotry, suicide]
























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #842.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I think you're intentionally misunderstanding this in the most uncharitable way because the idea goes against what you think you have a right to do. I never said anyone is gifting ME, specifically, a story by putting it on the internet. But they are increasing the choice of stories for everyone. And when they take something down, they're doing the exact opposite of that.


Tomatoes are a finite resource that require sustained effort for sustained enjoyment. Imagination is not. You're making the exact same conflation as the old "you wouldn't steal a car" anti-media-copying argument here.

[(Anonymous)]

You, I think, are underestimating the effort required to keep a fic publicly available on the internet under your name. Even in the age of AO3, it's not zero-effort or zero-risk! Having your name on it makes you responsible for moderating the comments on it, and even if you turn comments off, or it's reposted by somebody else, leaves you vulnerable to backlash about it, which can be a pretty big ongoing emotional overhead for some people! (And, in fact, an actual physical threat in some cases.)

And if it's published *not* under your name by somebody else, someone is taking away your credit for it, which is literally the only compensation most people get for the work involved in writing.

If you have a download of a fic, it's find to pass it around! That is taking literally nothing away from and expecting literally nothing from the person who wrote it, nobody reasonably minds that. But don't republish it publicly. This isn't hard.

(Meanwhile, growing cherry tomatoes basically is zero-effort around here, they grow out of the ditches sometimes if you look away for too long. Still doesn't mean that offering to share mine once leaves me obligated to let you come in and have them forever.)

[(Anonymous)]

I write explicit darkfic on the AO3. To this day, the "amount of effort required to keep fic available on the internet," there, has been extremely reasonable. First of all, they do not require me to put my legal name to it, or give said name to them. Second, if I could not watch over what people were saying in the comments, I am quite sure that they would not send angry lawyers to hammer on my door or any other kind of dire consequence. So, although I realize people can have a miserable time with judgmental strangers maligning their username, I do not consider leaving fanfic that I already wrote online an act of particular heroism. Or a high-effort activity. I do think it's important for a lot of other reasons.

Even if I agreed with you about author credit being "the only compensation for writing fanfic," the writer is depriving themselves of that by trying to make the story and its connection to them disappear from the internet.

I don't mind arguing about it, but I don't think you're in any position to tell me what's justifiable and not. People who knew the right people have always been in a better position to get things that aren't widely available than people who don't. Is that what you want to go back to? "What's the problem? Everyone in the know and well-connected still has access, so it's not really gone." Because that's what you're advocating for.