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⌈ Secret Post #5888 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I wanted to thrift for a record player, invest in a good needle and call it a day, but so many of them required help & replacement pieces, enough for someone who's casually into records (I pick up some I like and look interesting) to look for X piece and assembly instructions. Etc. It just would have been a lot of work without the guarantee that I didn't mess it up beyond. Spent $ on an orbit (don't recall how much I spent and it's honestly not my style aesthetically, but this was like...fuck five years ago? Maybe a bit more?) . Anyway. I'll just say I completed my set up with a decent preamp, and my Bluetooth speakers lol. Not the kind of set up the people you're referring to like, but it plays my records and that's what I want! To listen to my music!

[(Anonymous)]

Ugggghhh, expensive subcultures that gatekeep like this are the worst, since it ends up boiling down to a pissing contest over how much dispisable income you have. And that just kills the joy for casuals.

[tabaqui]

Sounds like every other 'hobby' that mostly caters to men who can't stop themselves bragging on how much money they have and how much random, useless info they know.

It's like the 'ask your question here!' Reddit I went into once to ask a research question for a fic, and got all sorts of nonsense, snotty replies, and 'well, ACTUALLY' crap.

I got a wee record player for Xmas, because I still have records but nothing to play them on. It cost about 50 bucks and is in a cute little case, turquoise blue. Works just fine for me!

[(Anonymous)]

Judging by how you say "mostly caters to men" you don't know the lolita community, do you?

Elitist rich hobbyists are a disease and they are everywhere.

[tabaqui]

Some catering to women is implied in the 'mostly', don't you think?

[(Anonymous)]

Da
Doesn't change that you chose to single out men especially /shrug

[tabaqui]

Yes, let's all cry moar for the mens, so maligned and misunderstood.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like every other 'hobby' that mostly caters to men who can't stop themselves bragging on how much money they have and how much random, useless info they know.

Based purely on my own experience with the fragrance community, I agree with you on this. When I first started getting into the online fragrance community I thought it would be mostly women, but lol, hell no! Not even close! It's a hobby that hinges heavily on learning lots and lots of trivia, and acquiring a collection of expensive items that basically function as visual representations of how much money one can spend and how much respect one's engagement in the hobby ought to command. So of course it's mostly men.

Like, I don't hate the fragcomm. It's mostly okay, most of the time. But when you bop over to the female fragrance sub on reddit, it's just overall a lot more casual and positive, and just a bunch of people sharing in an interest. Whereas the "main" fragrances sub, which skews male, is still mostly a fine community, but there is an ever-present element of flex culture and having Good Taste, and knowing the Right Brands, which is well exemplified by the number of posts that are like, "25M, rate my collection!" and it's like thirty super popular fragrances that come up over and over again, and half of them cost more than $250 per bottle.

Female-dominated hobbies can absolutely spawn toxic communities, but in general there's a particular attitude of "I'm a TRUE fan/hobbiest because I know all the right facts and have all the right tools" that tends to be way, way more prevalent in male-dominated hobby communities.

[tabaqui]

Wow, that's not what I would expect in the fragrance collecting culture. But how am I not really all that shocked or surprised? Sheesh.

[(Anonymous)]

In my experience, it's the other way around in certain collector fandoms. Especially tea and painting, particularly watercolours. The sheer number of elitist snobby women there is immense.

[(Anonymous)]

(Antilolita anon here) this. Some types of products appeal specifically to women who think they are hot shit because they are "ladylike" "refined" "cultured" (painfully middle class or post-affluent lol) it shows in the communities.

[(Anonymous)]

You know what's funny? I've always felt way too poor and overworked to truly get into it. I was a huge Jack White fan and when he began moving the whole vinyl record thing I found it to be really cool and niche. Totally for my hipster tastes.

Cut to a few weeks ago and I've never been so glad to have been too poor throughout my 20s to get into vinyl record collecting. I was recommended Benn Jordan's video that questions if it's toxic or not on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/aZ2czFuIYmQ

I don't know if there's been further study on this, but based on the small investigation I did on this...I don't think I'll ever buy vinyl records.

This is the newest video by The Vinyl Guru one year ago that I just watched. Seems like...more or less nothing has really changed.
https://youtu.be/M5_Vm8F3UIw

[(Anonymous)]

I grew up with vinyl, had cassettes and then a ton of CDs.

It was a total waste of money.

I am so grateful for the tiny footprint of digital music today, holy shit. I can carry tons of playlists in my pocket and play them in my car and don't have to buy a bunch of equipment? (I do have a good receiver/speakers anyway for the home theater stuff.)

[(Anonymous)]

Man, as someone who grew up lying on my dad's office floor while he worked and I did my homework and being in charge of flipping the record over when it finished, it makes me sad to hear that there's snobbery around this.

It's (no offense to vinyl lovers, I would love to steal my dad's collection if I had my own record player just for the nostalgia) like someone gatekeeping boomboxes or something.

Get what works and don't worry about what everyone else is doing with their music.

[(Anonymous)]

Gatekeepers are the worst.

[(Anonymous)]

Bought a 200$ POS with built-in speakers just because I wanted to listen to the hundreds of vintage records I inherited from my parents... Uh oh, look at me enjoying myself.

[scissorsevered]

Mine came with a BLUETOOTH speaker. The thing is tiny, too.

Haven't bought a new speaker set yet but this little guy has been letting me listen to my King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard records, so thats something.

[scissorsevered]

Funnily enough I just bought a Crosley. It isn't awesome, but it does the job. Then again this is the first record player I've ever had, so I'd call it a decent introduction considering I'm pretty much broke.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

The main problem with Crosleys is twofold: 1) they tend to have tracking issues, meaning that records that would be fine on other players can have random skipping issues, and 2) to combat this they use a heavier (and automated) weight to the arm, so they can damage records if you play them a bunch on them. If you're just dipping ur toe in go for it, but get something without auto tracking if you want to get more into the hobby just for the sake of your records.

Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

Is vinyl picking up again? Because that would explain a few things (I was baffled when I recently wandered by the electronics section of my local Walmart and saw a Billie Eilish record).

Re: Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like vinyl's been picking up over the last decade.

Re: Hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

Vinyl sales surpassed CD sales in 2021.

[pantswarrior]

I'd been thinking of picking up a turntable again now that, well, they MAKE them again, because after my parents' record player that was older than I am died about 15 years ago, I didn't have any way to listen to all the Beatles/Pink Floyd/Moody Blues/etc. albums that either they had or I picked up at garage sales.

I guess I'm not a "serious" vinyl fan if all my stuff is vintage, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know the first thing about vinyl listening or collecting or any of that, but my mom still has a ton of records from her youth but no way to listen to them-- when I've tried to ask if I can get her a record player for Christmas/birthday/etc, she insists that any turntable that doesn't have the three rows of little dots around the edge and a way to fine-tune the turning speed (??? I got the impression the dots are a way to gauge whether the record is turning at the right speed? and you can... adjust it?) is not even worth looking at.

and this seems like such a tiny issue to me vs not being able to listen to her records AT ALL, but she insists