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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-18 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #5888 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5888 ⌋

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like every other 'hobby' that mostly caters to men who can't stop themselves bragging on how much money they have and how much random, useless info they know.

It's like the 'ask your question here!' Reddit I went into once to ask a research question for a fic, and got all sorts of nonsense, snotty replies, and 'well, ACTUALLY' crap.

I got a wee record player for Xmas, because I still have records but nothing to play them on. It cost about 50 bucks and is in a cute little case, turquoise blue. Works just fine for me!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 01:04 am (UTC)(link)

Judging by how you say "mostly caters to men" you don't know the lolita community, do you?

Elitist rich hobbyists are a disease and they are everywhere.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-19 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Some catering to women is implied in the 'mostly', don't you think?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Da
Doesn't change that you chose to single out men especially /shrug
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-19 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, let's all cry moar for the mens, so maligned and misunderstood.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you insist on being a dumbass who only whines about teh evul menz, go ahead.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-19 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, jeez, get a grip. Notice the comment below that agreed with me? Go bug them.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Gladly. They are equally wrong any whiny as you, after all!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome! I saw there was a reply but I hadn't read it yet. Now I know not to bother. Thanks for saving me time, you're the best!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
This has to be one of the worst phrasings I've ever seen of a point I kind of agree with.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like every other 'hobby' that mostly caters to men who can't stop themselves bragging on how much money they have and how much random, useless info they know.

Based purely on my own experience with the fragrance community, I agree with you on this. When I first started getting into the online fragrance community I thought it would be mostly women, but lol, hell no! Not even close! It's a hobby that hinges heavily on learning lots and lots of trivia, and acquiring a collection of expensive items that basically function as visual representations of how much money one can spend and how much respect one's engagement in the hobby ought to command. So of course it's mostly men.

Like, I don't hate the fragcomm. It's mostly okay, most of the time. But when you bop over to the female fragrance sub on reddit, it's just overall a lot more casual and positive, and just a bunch of people sharing in an interest. Whereas the "main" fragrances sub, which skews male, is still mostly a fine community, but there is an ever-present element of flex culture and having Good Taste, and knowing the Right Brands, which is well exemplified by the number of posts that are like, "25M, rate my collection!" and it's like thirty super popular fragrances that come up over and over again, and half of them cost more than $250 per bottle.

Female-dominated hobbies can absolutely spawn toxic communities, but in general there's a particular attitude of "I'm a TRUE fan/hobbiest because I know all the right facts and have all the right tools" that tends to be way, way more prevalent in male-dominated hobby communities.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2023-02-19 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's not what I would expect in the fragrance collecting culture. But how am I not really all that shocked or surprised? Sheesh.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, it's the other way around in certain collector fandoms. Especially tea and painting, particularly watercolours. The sheer number of elitist snobby women there is immense.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-19 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
(Antilolita anon here) this. Some types of products appeal specifically to women who think they are hot shit because they are "ladylike" "refined" "cultured" (painfully middle class or post-affluent lol) it shows in the communities.